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re: Homebrewing Thread: Volume II

Posted on 5/15/16 at 2:14 pm to
Posted by Canuck Tiger
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 2:14 pm to
I finally got my Hefeweizen into the keg with 400g of toasted coconut this am. Just need warm summer weather in a couple weeks :)
Posted by Fratastic423
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 11:05 am to
I didn't get the brewing in this weekend, so I am taking the afternoon off to get it accomplished today. Brewing a Westy Single of sorts. 70% Pilsner, 25% Pale Malt, 5% sugar. Bittered with N. Brewer and Magnum, Flavored with Hallertau Mitterlfrueh and Stryian Golding. Wyeast Abbey Ale at 65-75. Should be a simple brew session. Saying that will probably jinx the crap out of me.
Posted by Canuck Tiger
Member since Sep 2010
1763 posts
Posted on 5/16/16 at 2:31 pm to
One of my favourite beers I've brewed was a belgian single that was basically SMaSH pilsner/Saaz fermented with WY1214.

Also taking a weekday off to brew is highly recommended and I try to do it every couple months. Breaks up the work week and frees up the weekend!
Posted by Canuck Tiger
Member since Sep 2010
1763 posts
Posted on 5/16/16 at 7:12 pm to
Does coconut flavor fade really quickly? This coconut Hefeweizen is AMAZING after 1.5 days of 400g toasted coconut in the keg. The banana from the yeast is in the nose and the flavor is strongly coconut and it's exactly what I was going for. But I'm wondering if I should leave the coconut in the keg as it cold crashes and carbs or wait a while to cold crash. Basically I'm not sure how stable this coconut flavor is...
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
15158 posts
Posted on 5/16/16 at 7:31 pm to
One of my favorite beers that LA Homebrew makes is a Belgian SMASH.

Lager brewed on Saturday is fermenting, need to knock out a Gose this week.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 8:03 am to
quote:

Does coconut flavor fade really quickly?


I made a coconut porter and it lasted a while. It wasn't as strong but you could still taste it
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
55477 posts
Posted on 5/19/16 at 10:28 am to
quote:

Does coconut flavor fade really quickly? This coconut Hefeweizen is AMAZING after 1.5 days of 400g toasted coconut in the keg. The banana from the yeast is in the nose and the flavor is strongly coconut and it's exactly what I was going for. But I'm wondering if I should leave the coconut in the keg as it cold crashes and carbs or wait a while to cold crash. Basically I'm not sure how stable this coconut flavor is...



I added my coconut to the keg. It faded rather quickly. The first 2/3 weeks it was fantastic, after that it faded pretty quickly. By week 6-8 it was hard to drink, started to taste a little acrid.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
55477 posts
Posted on 5/19/16 at 10:39 am to
So i posted before about really liking German Huell Melon. It's not quite as fruit forward as i originally posted, it appears. I think i may have just had 1 too many when i posted. It's good, and it should be used to compliment a beer, but not as the dominant hop.

That being said, i think i will pause my hop experimentation for a while. I just come away disappointed, and don't get nearly the aroma or flavor as the website descriptors relay. I get some, but the amounts are very minute.

So with that, i am crafting a DIPA with all of the reliable "new-ish" varietals. Galaxy, Amarillo, Citra, Simcoe, and possibly Mosaic.

I've used combinations before of Mosaic, Amarillo, and Citra and it came out great. I've used galaxy as a pale ale by itself and it came out great. And I've used Simcoe, Citra, and Mosaic in conjunction and again, great. So i figured i will craft a recipe with all of the hops in a DIPA and see what happens. Here's the initial recipe. Looking for some feedback.

MALT
13 lbs 11.5 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 88.0 %
15.0 oz Pale Malt, Golden Promise (Thomas Fawcet Grain 2 6.0 %
7.5 oz Honey Malt (Gambrinus) (25.0 SRM) Grain 3 3.0 %
7.5 oz Oats, Flaked (Briess) (1.4 SRM) Grain 4 3.0 %

HOPS

0.75 oz HopShot [36.50 %] - Boil 75.0 min Hop 5 75.5 IBUs
0.50 oz Citra [12.00 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 6 3.2 IBUs
0.50 oz Galaxy [14.00 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 7 3.7 IBUs
0.20 oz HopShot [36.50 %] - Boil 1.0 min Hop 8 0.8 IBUs

STEEP/WHIRLPOOL

1.00 oz Amarillo [0.00 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 30. Hop 9 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Citra [0.00 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 30.0 m Hop 10 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Galaxy [0.00 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 30.0 Hop 11 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Mosaic (HBC 369) [0.00 %] - Steep/Whirlp Hop 12 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Simcoe [0.00 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 30.0 Hop 13 0.0 IBUs

DRY HOP

1.50 oz Citra [12.00 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Days Hop 15 0.0 IBUs
1.50 oz Galaxy [14.00 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Days Hop 16 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Days Hop 17 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Amarillo [9.20 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Days Hop 18 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Mosaic (HBC 369) [12.25 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Hop 19 0.0 IBUs

YEAST

Still playing around with it. Thinking either giga vermont IPA, Giga Norcal #5 (same as WLP051 Cal Ale 5) or use an english yeast which i've never done before for an IPA.
This post was edited on 5/19/16 at 10:40 am
Posted by BMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 5/19/16 at 10:57 am to
I'd scrap the 1 minute HopShot addition. It does nothing for flavor/aroma.

Kegged my grisette last night. Seems like it'll be a nice refreshing and easy to drink table beer. Will give it a taste tonight once it's chilled and carbonated.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
55477 posts
Posted on 5/19/16 at 11:10 am to
quote:

I'd scrap the 1 minute HopShot addition. It does nothing for flavor/aroma.


Description said it can be used for bitterness and aroma. I figure if i'm using 8 mL at first wort, the remaining 2 at flameout wouldn't hurt it. It's more of a "use up all the ingredients" thing, i try to do when i brew.

quote:

Kegged my grisette last night. Seems like it'll be a nice refreshing and easy to drink table beer. Will give it a taste tonight once it's chilled and carbonated.




Save me a bottle. Would be interested in trying that. I'm brewing up my Saison Sunday after church. Made some modifications to last years recipe. Using Nelson Sauvin instead of Amarillo, and tried to use all Franco-Belge malts, but had to make a substitute for the belgian wheat due to availability. Also, may up the blood orange peel amount at the end of the boil to 2 oz. instead of 1.
Posted by Canuck Tiger
Member since Sep 2010
1763 posts
Posted on 5/19/16 at 11:52 am to
Hey Bug for your single hop beer tests consider trying variations of Tropic King:

LINK

It uses much less hops per batch (I scale up the flame out to 1 oz and the dry hops to 2 oz for 4oz total) and it finishes so dry that the hops really pop with 3711. I got clear berry notes when I made it with mosaic and white wine flavor with Nelson that I had never gotten from IPAs I had brewed.

You can easily scale down the grain bill to produce a 6.5%ish beer instead of an imperial saison too.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/19/16 at 11:56 am to
quote:


Hey Bug for your single hop beer tests consider trying variations of Tropic King:


I'll def. look into it, thanks for the link.

There are many austrailian hops i'm interested in, but don't really want to waste an entire brew day to explore that 1 hop.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
28432 posts
Posted on 5/19/16 at 7:05 pm to
What was the recipe on your grisette? That color in the FBD thread is killer and I want it.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
55477 posts
Posted on 5/20/16 at 7:56 am to
So got a question on dry hopping amounts for a Saison. Brewing up a saison sunday. Here's the recipe

MALT

5 lbs 8.0 oz Pilsen (Franco-Belges) (1.8 SRM) Grain 1 50.0 %
3 lbs 12.0 oz Pale Ale (Franco-Belges) (2.7 SRM) Grain 2 34.1 %
1 lbs Wheat (BestMälz) (2.0 SRM) Grain 3 9.1 %
8.0 oz Caravienne Malt (22.0 SRM) Grain 4 4.5 %

HOPS/MISC.

0.40 oz Magnum [12.00 %] - First Wort 60.0 min Hop 5 17.0 IBUs
4.0 oz Turbinado (10.0 SRM) Sugar 6 2.3 %
0.50 oz Nelson Sauvin [12.00 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 8 7.0 IBUs
2.00 oz Blood Orange Peel (Boil 5.0 mins) Herb 9 -

WHIRLPOOL

1.25 oz Nelson Sauvin [0.00 %] - Steep/Whirlpool Hop 10 0.0 IBUs

YEAST

1.0 pkg French Saison (Wyeast Labs #3711) [50.28 Yeast 11 -

DRY HOP

2.25 oz Nelson Sauvin [12.00 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Da Hop 12 0.0 IBUs

1.00 oz Oak Chips (Bottling 7.0 days) Flavor 13 -

I'm starting to wonder if i'm using too many hops in the late addition. I have .5 @ 10 min, 1.25 oz in the whirlpool and 2.25 in the dry hop.

I did not dry hop this beer last time. I only used a first wort and 30 minute addition of amarillo.

Thinking about cutting an ounce of hops out of the back end. Thoughts? I want a saison with some hop character, but don't want to dominate the flavor with hops.

ETA: also considering cutting out the turbinado sugar altogether. 3711 eats up enough sugars to not need any help from the turbinado.
This post was edited on 5/20/16 at 8:01 am
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
15158 posts
Posted on 5/20/16 at 8:53 am to
quote:

I'm starting to wonder if i'm using too many hops in the late addition. I have .5 @ 10 min, 1.25 oz in the whirlpool and 2.25 in the dry hop.





quote:

What was the recipe on your grisette? That color in the FBD thread is killer and I want it.


That is an awesome colored beer.
This post was edited on 5/20/16 at 9:47 am
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
55477 posts
Posted on 5/20/16 at 8:56 am to
Just don't want to overpower the beer with hops. It's a saison not an IPA. Just thinking, especially with that hop, that i should tone it down a little. I bought all the ingredients already, just rolling around ideas.
Posted by BMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
16657 posts
Posted on 5/20/16 at 8:57 am to
quote:

What was the recipe on your grisette? That color in the FBD thread is killer and I want it.


Well, I bumped up the brightness and contrast in the pic since it was kind of dark out. But it still looks really nice.

Recipe was:

5lb Pilsner
3lb White Wheat
1lb Vienna
4oz Acidulatd malt

1oz Saaz 60 min
1oz Jarrylo 5 min
1oz Jarrylo dry hopped for 9 days (cause I was lazy and didn't keg it last weekend)

Wyeast 3711
Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
Member since Aug 2004
16224 posts
Posted on 5/20/16 at 8:58 am to
quote:

BugAC


rdwhahb
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
55477 posts
Posted on 5/20/16 at 8:58 am to
quote:

1oz Jarrylo 5 min
1oz Jarrylo dry hopped


How is this hop? I've heard that it works well with saisons. Is it very pronounced or somewhat muted. How would you describe the flavor?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
55477 posts
Posted on 5/20/16 at 9:00 am to
quote:


rdwhahb


I AM RELAXED DAMMIT!!!!!

J/k, i'm not "freaking out". It's friday, and i wanted to have a homebrew conversation on others experiences with dry hopping saisons.

I rarely "freak out" anymore when brewing. Especially not as much when i first started.
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