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re: Homebrewing Thread: Volume II

Posted on 11/14/16 at 1:31 pm to
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 11/14/16 at 1:31 pm to
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I don't know. It was just a few bottles I filled from the keg and submitted to a contest. One of the judges told me how weird it looked, even though it tasted fine. Think he even sent me a picture, and it definitely had a weirdish purple tinge to it.



Had a problem with this a year or 2 ago. Brewed up an IPA with Azacca and Motueka i believe. Of the 48 or so bottles, all but 2 were messed up.

I believe the culprit, was that i did not rinse teh bottles well enough after their starsan soak. Caused the beers to be dark purplish color, and it appeared to negatively affect the carbonation as well. The 2 bottles that were not affected came out great, the rest were pretty bad. Unfortunately i also submitted this to a homebrew competition as well.
Posted by LSUGrad00
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 11/14/16 at 3:23 pm to
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I believe the culprit, was that i did not rinse teh bottles well enough after their starsan soak. Caused the beers to be dark purplish color, and it appeared to negatively affect the carbonation as well. The 2 bottles that were not affected came out great, the rest were pretty bad. Unfortunately i also submitted this to a homebrew competition as well.


Isn't one of the major benefits of starsan over other sanitizers that it's "no rise"?

Could it have been reside from whatever you cleaned the bottles with?

I haven't bottled in years, but I'm planning on bottling some of these brett beers. I'll have to look into this some more.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57813 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 3:29 pm to
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Isn't one of the major benefits of starsan over other sanitizers that it's "no rise"?

Could it have been reside from whatever you cleaned the bottles with?

I haven't bottled in years, but I'm planning on bottling some of these brett beers. I'll have to look into this some more.


i've heard that too. And i highly doubt it came from the cleaner. When i bottled, i used to use the same procedure. Fill a large blue tub with water and PBW and let them soak for a day or 2. Take out bottles, empty, rinse, then do the same thing with starsan.

Never had a problem before or after that brew day, but i did make sure i rinsed my bottles really well. Ever since i started kegging, i've abandoned bottling outside of bottling a handful to give out to people. My long aged sour will need to be bottled completely, however, and i plan to do the same process as before, but make sure to rinse the hell out of each bottle.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 11/14/16 at 3:59 pm to
this seems like a good time to add frick bottling
Posted by BMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/14/16 at 4:03 pm to
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this seems like a good time to add frick bottling


Definitely agree with that. Just thinking about the days of bottling 52 12oz bottles makes me shudder.
Posted by Fratastic423
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
5990 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 4:43 pm to
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. My long aged sour will need to be bottled completely, however, and i plan to do the same process as before, but make sure to rinse the hell out of each bottle.




You could argue as Michael Tonsmeire does that there is no real reason to sanitize multi-bacteria soured beer bottles. The environment isn't terribly conducive to more bacteria growth, and frankly you probably have everything that would have been in the bottle already in the beer.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57813 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 5:15 pm to
Haven't thought about that. Good point.
Posted by LSUGrad00
Member since Dec 2003
2428 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 10:41 am to
So I've been using the Jamil style whirlpool with a bent copper pipe return inside of the immersion chiller for quite a few years with great chilling results, but as my hop loads increased the whirlpool didn't work very well and more trub/hop hop material was making it into fermenter than I wanted.

This whirlpool method also meant I had to use and immersion chiller and as I'm trying to transition things to things that can be replicated on a larger system I want to convert to a plate chiller.

Anyway I purchased the whirlpool port from ss brewtech a couple weeks back, installed it on the kettle, and today is my first brew using it.

This is the the whirlpool pre-built. Pushing about 8.75 gallons with an upgraded 809 March pump. Not bad...

Posted by Bleed P&G
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2003
3115 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 1:04 pm to
To all in this thread, I'm going to be brewing this weekend, but have not yet decided what to brew. I am going to the LHBS later today to get ingredients. What should I brew? Give me one of your favorite recipes.

The only two styles that I don't want to brew right now are porter and IPA, since I have both of these on tap and have a red IPA being kegged tomorrow.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57813 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 1:10 pm to
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What should I brew? Give me one of your favorite recipes.


How about a Saison with Brett? If you don't want to deal with the brett, then omit from the recipe. THis is one of my best recipes (so far, i have a brett pale ale currently fermenting that i think may surpass this one). I call it French Benefits.

If you do want the brett, pitch it after primary ferm. I wish i would have left it in the fermenter a little longer before kegging. I kegged it about 2 weeks after adding the brett. It took another 2 weeks in the keg to start imparting some brett flavors. Every week after that i'd get some slightly more funky flavors. Unfortunately, i finished off the keg before the brett fully developed.

5 lbs 8.0 oz Pilsen (Franco-Belges) (1.8 SRM) Grain 9 51.2 %
3 lbs 12.0 oz Pale Ale (Franco-Belges) (2.7 SRM) Grain 10 34.9 %
1 lbs Wheat (BestMälz) (2.0 SRM) Grain 11 9.3 %
8.0 oz Caravienne Malt (22.0 SRM) Grain 12 4.7 %
0.40 oz Magnum [12.00 %] - First Wort 60.0 min Hop 13 17.3 IBUs
0.50 oz Nelson Sauvin [12.00 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 14 7.1 IBUs
1.40 oz Blood Orange Peel (Boil 5.0 mins) Herb 15 -
1.25 oz Nelson Sauvin [0.00 %] - Steep/Whirlpool Hop 16 0.0 IBUs
1.0 pkg Brux Blend (Gigayeast #GB156) Yeast 17 -
1.0 pkg French Saison (Wyeast Labs #3711) [50.28 Yeast 18 -
2.25 oz Nelson Sauvin [12.00 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Da Hop 19 0.0 IBUs
This post was edited on 11/17/16 at 1:15 pm
Posted by BMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
16813 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 1:28 pm to
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The only two styles that I don't want to brew right now are porter and IPA


Then I'm no help.
Posted by Bleed P&G
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2003
3115 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 3:56 pm to
What is your mash temperature?
Posted by LSUGrad00
Member since Dec 2003
2428 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 4:08 pm to
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How about a Saison with Brett


+1

I like having an easy drinker available for the masses during the holidays. In the past I've brewed something like Kolsch, American Wheat, or Berliner Weisse.

This year I brewed a Saison added some lacto along with the yeast, I may or may not add brett later in the process or to some specific bottles.
This post was edited on 11/17/16 at 4:08 pm
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57813 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 4:22 pm to
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What is your mash temperature?


150. Mine finished at 1.006. 3711 throws off a bunch of spicy phenols. I found adding the brett cut down on the spiciness a little and provided for a soft/delicate mouthfeel. It was a very good beer and i tried my best to not drink too much of it because i wanted to see how it aged.

Posted by Bleed P&G
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2003
3115 posts
Posted on 11/19/16 at 4:03 pm to
LBHS was out of 3711, so I passed on the saison. Ended up brewing a smoked brown ale. Brew day went pretty well considering that I was watching the game while brewing.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29807 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 9:05 am to
How vanilla-y is your porter?
Posted by BMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
16813 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 9:32 am to
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How vanilla-y is your porter?


Enough to really make it seem creamy, if that makes sense. It makes it such that there's no coffee bitterness apparent at all. I usually go with 2oz of the vanilla puree. You could obviously start with less than that and go from there.

My pumpkin coffee vanilla porter keg kicked yesterday as I was bottling some. Guess I'm brewing something this week. I think it's time for my pecan strong ale to make a return in time for Christmas.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29807 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 9:42 am to
Makes sense. I got something called Madagascar Bourbon vanilla paste, so we'll see. Might go 1 tbsp to start and taste again after filling up the keg.
Posted by LSUGrad00
Member since Dec 2003
2428 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:25 pm to
My saison hit the 3724 stall over the holiday. I bumped the temp from 84 to 90 and it seems to be cranking along pretty well.

Other than this strain is a total pain in the arse, the samples taste great. All the dupont characteristics with a subtle lactic tartness.

Hopefully the yeast keeps rocking along and can dry this out over the next week or so.

Anyone else brewing?


Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
Member since Aug 2004
16502 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:28 pm to
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Anyone else brewing?



making a coffee stout soon for when my porter keg kicks
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