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re: Homebrewing Thread: Volume II
Posted on 10/22/18 at 2:51 pm to Tornado Alley
Posted on 10/22/18 at 2:51 pm to Tornado Alley
yea try it. i didnt like how it changed my neipa. but i haven't had it by itself.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 3:15 pm to CarRamrod
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BeerSmith 3
I downloaded the trial and played with it some. Eh, it's okay. Doesn't offer me anything I can't use online calculators for.
And my opinion of lemondrops was less than stellar. Maybe I had some bad ones. I did a saison with them a while back and it wasn't my thing.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 3:39 pm to CarRamrod
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Has anyone messed with BeerSmith 3? is it worth he upgrade?
I didn't care for it so stuck with 2.0.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 4:04 pm to CarRamrod
I am using 0.20 oz cluster hops as a bittering hop, not just the lemon drop
Posted on 10/22/18 at 4:08 pm to Tornado Alley
quote:yea for bittering.... you dont get much flavor from that(besiding bitterness) being it is a 30min addition.
cluster hops as a bittering hop
I mean i had a big hop addition with 3 different dry hops.
This post was edited on 10/22/18 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:41 pm to CarRamrod
Brewed 10gallons of an experimental pale ale I loved last time. Splitting it up and keeping 5 gallons the same as last time and lagering the other 5.
This was a perfect lighter drinking beer you can enjoy all night. I'm interested to see what lagering does to it.
I used motueka and wakatu hops.
This was a perfect lighter drinking beer you can enjoy all night. I'm interested to see what lagering does to it.
I used motueka and wakatu hops.
Posted on 10/25/18 at 4:06 pm to Zappas Stache
quote:i found this list of updates
Has anyone messed with BeerSmith 3? is it worth he upgrade?
I didn't care for it so stuck with 2.0.
quote:the things i have bolded are rather big updates. those are the portions i would have to use other spreadsheets. Im gonna give it a try.
Major Highlights
Support for mead, wine and cider recipe types, including related styles and data
Cloud folders, better cloud sharing options and rating of recipes
Updated look/feel and smart dialogs that are tailored to the task at hand
Water profile tools fully integrated with the recipe builder
Support for individual whirlpool hop temperatures and high altitude brewing
Mash pH acid adjustments fully integrated with the recipe builder
Two stage yeast starters for liquid yeast and dry yeast hydration
A ton of new data - hops, grains, fruits, juices, styles, more all updated
Backwards compatible - imports your data, and can run side by side with V2
I wonder if the cataloging is gonna be better? How do you catalog your recipes. Like you brew a 2nd version of a beer? there is a version number within the recipe but if you save as you have to save a different name, so why even have that? I wish there was a way that recipes could be threaded like emails.
This post was edited on 10/25/18 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 10/25/18 at 4:17 pm to CarRamrod
I never liked BeerSmith but having the water profile integrated into the recipe is a feature that might make me change my mind. I haven't tried it yet to see exactly how it's been implemented. If it's as good as Bru'n Water then that would be huge.
BeerSmith never seemed to be able to distinguish between a recipe and a brewing session. That's been my main issue with it since day 1.
BeerSmith never seemed to be able to distinguish between a recipe and a brewing session. That's been my main issue with it since day 1.
Posted on 10/25/18 at 4:23 pm to MountainTiger
I heard the water calculator is not all that great. That's only what I've hear, though. I have not tried it. If anyone plays with it and finds something else out, let me know.
Posted on 10/25/18 at 8:38 pm to BugAC
I am about to keg a Moose Drool brown ale clone I brewed up 2.5 weeks ago.
Questions: I see lots of talk on reddit about guys that will go to kegging after 2 weeks or less. Any of you all do this so quickly? I've always gone 3 weeks but feel like I read more and more it's just not necessary unless you have really complex beer.
Thinking about brewing up a NEIPA this weekend to fill the other keg with (both empty right now)
Questions: I see lots of talk on reddit about guys that will go to kegging after 2 weeks or less. Any of you all do this so quickly? I've always gone 3 weeks but feel like I read more and more it's just not necessary unless you have really complex beer.
Thinking about brewing up a NEIPA this weekend to fill the other keg with (both empty right now)
Posted on 10/25/18 at 9:01 pm to LoneStarTiger
Yes you keg/bottle prior to 3 weeks? Would you care to go to into more detail - all beers you do this with? stop things after 1 week? 2 weeks?
Posted on 10/25/18 at 9:40 pm to AubieALUMdvm
I’ve gone brew day to keg in 7 days. Most of the time, it’s 2 weeks. Very rarely would I go more than 3 weeks. Maybe for a big stout or barleywine. I don’t brew sours, other than Berliners and goses.
Posted on 10/26/18 at 7:56 am to AubieALUMdvm
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Yes you keg/bottle prior to 3 weeks? Would you care to go to into more detail - all beers you do this with? stop things after 1 week? 2 weeks?
sorry, was tending to 2 sicks kids. Sure, I can elaborate. Most of the beers I make are fermented out in 6-8 days, at which point I will cold crash and keg. I have, like B, gone brew to keg in 7 days. Typically I have to carve out some time for kegging and can't just up and do it whenever I'd like, so I can't say I have some sort of set number of days. And again, it obviously depends on if your beer has completely fermented.
Posted on 10/26/18 at 8:09 am to AubieALUMdvm
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it's just not necessary unless you have really complex beer.
Or unless you aren't following proper pitch rates, temperature guidelines, and oxygenation protocols. If you're treating your wort and yeast properly before and during fermentation, then you can speed up the time to packaging. I'm typically two weeks, but I have gone as low as five days on a low-gravity Belgian where I pitched a shite ton of yeast and fermented hot.
Always sample before packaging. The beer tells you when it's ready. Time is a human construct. Yeasts have no concept of time and work at their own pace.
Posted on 10/26/18 at 8:34 am to CarRamrod
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Water profile tools fully integrated with the recipe builder
Yes, I like this. I've been asking Brad (namedrop) over at beersmith to spruce up the water profile and ph tools, and they did. I used to have to use brewers friend with a combination of beersmith to get the correct salt additions. No longer have to do this.
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Mash pH acid adjustments fully integrated with the recipe builder
This also works much better. Again, no longer have to use brewer's friend for this. Can do this all in one.
All in all, I like the new upgrade. However, my brewing has slowed down this year. I always tried to shoot for 12 batches/year (1 a month), but this year, with the 2nd little guy in the house just turning 1, it's hard to set aside some brewing time.
I actually plan to brew this Friday after work. Going to use the Milk the Funk Funklandia megablend from bootleg. May try to get a 2 stage starter going this weekend to get the brett woken up. Trying to come up with a different grain bill this time. I've been going with a light saison grain bill for all my sours. May go with a Biere de Garde grain bill for this one.
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How do you catalog your recipes. Like you brew a 2nd version of a beer? there is a version number within the recipe but if you save as you have to save a different name, so why even have that? I wish there was a way that recipes could be threaded like emails.
I usually # my beers. So for instance, my last NEIPA was #55 - The Hopnotoad V. 5.0. I do utilize the version box but I just incorporate the versions in the recipe titles.
Posted on 10/26/18 at 8:44 am to AubieALUMdvm
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I am about to keg a Moose Drool brown ale clone I brewed up 2.5 weeks ago.
Hey, that was one of my first few brews I made.
quote:
Questions: I see lots of talk on reddit about guys that will go to kegging after 2 weeks or less. Any of you all do this so quickly? I've always gone 3 weeks but feel like I read more and more it's just not necessary unless you have really complex beer.
If you are wondering about going to the keg as in going to packaging in 2 weeks, I typically do keg at 7-10 days, depending on the yeast strain. Rarely have I had to wait 3 weeks to keg. But, I also make starters for every beer I make. That was one of the big game changers in my brewing. Always make a yeast starter. When I first started, i'd just pitch a pack of dry or liquid yeast, and wait. Well, needless to say, I went several days before I saw any activity. 1) The yeast was more than likely underpitched causing the yeast to stress trying to finsh out the beer, and thus, taking longer and 2) it would sometimes take 3 or 4 days before I saw any fermentation activity. And many times, I ended up having to buy more yeast.
Starters completely removed any of those fears/doubts that my yeast wasn't working. Now, depending on the yeast, I typically have about 6-12 hours before I start seeing initial fermentation activity. Sometimes less than that. I've had aggressive yeasts (Irish Ale yeast, London Ale 3) that I built up a good 2 liter starting and that beer starting fermenting in 3 hours. Now the only problem with that, is those yeasts were so aggressive, nearly every time I have a mess to clean up in the fermentation freezer because of a blowoff.
This post was edited on 10/26/18 at 8:53 am
Posted on 10/26/18 at 9:10 am to BugAC
So you have messed with the salts and water tools and they work? I have just used Bru'n sheets. im gonna play with these this weekend.
quote:yea me too.
I usually # my beers. So for instance, my last NEIPA was #55 - The Hopnotoad V. 5.0. I do utilize the version box but I just incorporate the versions in the recipe titles.
Posted on 10/26/18 at 2:37 pm to CarRamrod
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So you have messed with the salts and water tools and they work? I have just used Bru'n sheets. im gonna play with these this weekend.
They do. At least up to par with the brewer's friend advanced water profile tool. I've never used bru'n water.
Posted on 10/26/18 at 3:30 pm to BugAC
They still have the 21 day trial so you guys can download it if you want and try it out on a real brew session. Also here are a couple of videos (more on the website).
Overview
Creating a Beer Recipe
ETA: I was just looking at the overview video and the reason I don't like BeerSmith popped up almost immediately. He's talking about recipes and goes into how the program calculates infusion volumes for you. Well that shouldn't be part of the recipe. That's a system-dependent parameter. If I give you one of my recipes brewed on my system, you're going to have to change everything for your system. Same thing goes for the equipment profile.
Overview
Creating a Beer Recipe
ETA: I was just looking at the overview video and the reason I don't like BeerSmith popped up almost immediately. He's talking about recipes and goes into how the program calculates infusion volumes for you. Well that shouldn't be part of the recipe. That's a system-dependent parameter. If I give you one of my recipes brewed on my system, you're going to have to change everything for your system. Same thing goes for the equipment profile.
This post was edited on 10/26/18 at 3:45 pm
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