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Posted on 12/29/13 at 1:16 pm to
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 12/29/13 at 1:16 pm to
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Was looking at the schedule for Gruene Hall to see if I could find a reason to go out there and saw they are playing there New Years Day.




There you go. He occasionally plays in Beaumont, where we are from. He is playing a private Beaumont Police Dept. show there soon. Apparently Beaumont PD loves Shinyribs.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 12/29/13 at 1:31 pm to
Gonna check back and see when they are playing Tomball or Spring. Hit up Lone Pint then go check them out
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 12/29/13 at 3:29 pm to
Ordered 8 ounces of El Dorado hops for my next single hop pale ale. (Not all will be used in it)
Checked untappd to see if there was already a beer named Lost City of Gold. Sure enough, Stone just released an El Dorado IPA named Lost City of Liquid Gold


Upon further review, it's a single batch being served at the brewery.
This post was edited on 12/29/13 at 3:36 pm
Posted by EnglebertHumperdink
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Posted on 12/29/13 at 6:15 pm to
I need some help guys. I know I'm mostly a lurker, but I would appreciate any help the brewers of the F&D board can give.

I was inspired by the board to start brewing my own beer so last month I bought How To Brew by John Palmer. I then bought a starter kit from Amazon and an American Pale Ale kit from Northern Brewer. Today I attempted by first batch. My first problem came with the boil over. I used a 5 gallon pot and started with 3 gallons in the pot for the wort. It boiled over when I added my first batch of hops. I did, however, overcome that and carried on. I have a fermenter bucket and a 6 gallon carboy. I figured I would pour the cooled wort into the bucket then add the rest of the water to make 5 gallons. Then pour that into the carboy through a filtered funnel. I thought this would help with aeration. When I added the rest of the water I noticed it was real frothy. Too much. Maybe too much krausen? My biggest problem was pouring that into the carboy. It was impossible. It just dripped in at an incredibly slow rate. So I scrapped that and kept the liquid in the bucket, slapped on the top and airlock, and placed it in the closet. I feel like I missed something or screwed something up. Do you guys recommend anything? Thanks for reading.

TL,DR I botched my first batch and need advice.
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 12/29/13 at 6:34 pm to
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My first problem came with the boil over.


Pretty common until you get some experience....or a bigger kettle. Some people turn off the flame to add the malt extract and hops. You can also try Ferm Caps LINK. I have varying degrees of success with fermcaps and find I do have to add more than the recommended amount.

As for transferring wort, get an autosiphon LINKand the tubing to fit it. You will use the sutosiphon to transfer the beer from your carboy to your bottling bucket too.

The frothy head was just from the liquid being oxygenated which is a good thing when preparing to pitch your yeast....you did pitch your yeast right? You won't have a krausen form until the yeast starts working....usually by the next day. As long as you were sanitary (sanitized your bucket, carboy and anything that touched the wort including your hands, you'll be ok.).
This post was edited on 12/29/13 at 6:36 pm
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 12/29/13 at 6:44 pm to
Well, you're gonna end up with some beer, so don't worry

Other than possible contamination from a lot of exposure, you should be ok, but know that you will have a lower ABV than the kit says you will have since you lost some to the boil over.

Why did you put the wort into the bucket then try to go to the carboy?

If you are going to continue to do 3 gallon boils in a 5 gallon pot, get some Fermcap-S
Posted by EnglebertHumperdink
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Posted on 12/29/13 at 6:49 pm to
Thanks guys. I will buy the autosiphon and ferm caps right now. I'm pretty sure I did not contaminate anything. I did pitch the dry yeast before sealing.

Honestly I wanted to ferment in the carboy mainly so I can watch. I wanted to get the amount right so I poured the wort in the bucket (because it has the scale on the outside) so I can add enough water to get 5 gallons and I figured if I poured it in the carboy I could watch it ferment and have the 5 gallons I needed.
This post was edited on 12/29/13 at 6:51 pm
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 12/29/13 at 6:56 pm to
Gotcha
I like my carboys too, for the same reason

Before your next brew, mark your carboy so you know how much volume you've put into it. Then you don't have to transfer

You do need a auto siphon, that's a good tip. I buy rolls of tubing at Home Depot to always have plenty laying around.
Posted by EnglebertHumperdink
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Posted on 12/29/13 at 7:11 pm to
Another quick question. How do I know the temperature while it's fermenting? Should I take off the top for a minute? I have it in the spare room in the closet which is the coldest room in the house. We keep it around 70 degrees during the day and 67 at night.

ETA: I just realized I'm an idiot and I have an auto siphon

This post was edited on 12/29/13 at 7:16 pm
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 12/29/13 at 7:25 pm to
No, don't take off the top

It should be at or just above room temp, so stick a thermometer in the closet if you are curious
Posted by s14suspense
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Posted on 12/29/13 at 8:29 pm to
Get one of those stick on fermomemters.
Posted by rebeloke
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Posted on 12/29/13 at 8:34 pm to
Can you home brew lite beer?
Posted by Fratastic423
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Posted on 12/29/13 at 9:35 pm to
You can... But it isn't worth the cost. You can't make it on the small sale for any where close to the price to can buy it. And no one will be able to make it taste the same, regardless if what they say
Posted by EnglebertHumperdink
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Posted on 12/30/13 at 7:40 am to
I keep going in my closet hoping to see some bubbles, but I don't see any. Does it take a day or two to start?
Posted by s14suspense
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Posted on 12/30/13 at 7:51 am to
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I keep going in my closet hoping to see some bubbles, but I don't see any. Does it take a day or two to start?



A day. Yes. You have an airlock or what?
Posted by EnglebertHumperdink
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Posted on 12/30/13 at 8:03 am to
Yes I have the airlock on. The bucket is sealed. I feel like this batch is doomed.
Posted by LSURoss
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Posted on 12/30/13 at 8:15 am to
How long has it been in the fermenter?
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 12/30/13 at 8:21 am to
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My first problem came with the boil over. I used a 5 gallon pot and started with 3 gallons in the pot for the wort. It boiled over when I added my first batch of hops.


As long as you caught it before it got out of hand, it's not a big deal. I've had minor boil overs a few times and it really didn't do anything. I did have 1 boil over that put out the flame on my burner. That was a pain in the arse, but i got it cleaned up and going again. Keep in mind, this was all in my extract days.

Also, a trick i do, if i see a bunch of foam rising i lower my heat and keep a spray bottle of water handy. The water keeps the rising foam at bay. This usually only happens in the beginning of my boil, as i wait for the hot break.

quote:

I figured I would pour the cooled wort into the bucket then add the rest of the water to make 5 gallons. Then pour that into the carboy through a filtered funnel. I thought this would help with aeration. When I added the rest of the water I noticed it was real frothy. Too much. Maybe too much krausen?


Not sure how frothy it was, but i don't believe this is a problem. It's just your wort getting oxygen via mixing water. My carboys are always a little "frothy" when i add my wort, but that's mostly due to a little starsan being left in the carboy. This shouldn't be a problem, unless you are having troubles filling your carboy because you have too much foam. This isn't krausen, by the way. This is just aerated wort/water and possibly sanitizer foam.

quote:

My biggest problem was pouring that into the carboy. It was impossible. It just dripped in at an incredibly slow rate. So I scrapped that and kept the liquid in the bucket, slapped on the top and airlock, and placed it in the closet. I feel like I missed something or screwed something up.


The problem you are having here, is your hops are clogging up your strainer on your funnel. I've did my best to try to find ways to mitigate this. My tips, is that i use a large funnel with a strainer, plus a stainless steel mesh strainer. The metal strainer catches the bigger hops residue particles, while the smaller strainer gets everything else. However, this is not without fault. It will still get clogged up by the hops. So invest in some big tongs. I just take the tongs and move it back and forth to keep the hops from settling. Then, if i'm still clogging up, i stop pouring, and use the tongs to simply scoop up the hops residue and toss in the trash. I do this until i have my desired amount of wort.

Another tip, to help reduce the amount of hops residue is to whirlpool your hops in the end. Once your wort is cooled down to a decent temp, take your wort paddle or spoon and create a whirlpool in your kettle. Let this swirl for about 5 minutes. this collects the majority of your hops in the center of your kettle. Now keep in mind, this works for kettle's with valves. If you are pouring from your bottling bucket to carboy, you could possibly do the same thing. But that spigot on the bottling bucket is very small, so i can see that clogging up very easily.

quote:

I botched my first batch and need advice.


No you didn't. It will turn out fine. If not, you at least have things to remember not to do for next time. Coming from a serial brew worrier, these aren't major problems. Ask any on the board here, when i was first starting, or even now, when i'm trying new processes, i worry a lot, and ask plenty of questions. But for the most part, it never really is anything to worry about.

I've brewed 16 batches, and only really messed up 2. And those only were messed up in the bottling phase when i severely over carbonated my bottles (my 2nd and 3rd brews). It really takes a lot to mess up a brew during the actual brew phase. Just keep your equipment clean sand sanitized and Relax, don't worry, and have a homebrew!
This post was edited on 12/30/13 at 8:23 am
Posted by BugAC
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/30/13 at 8:26 am to
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I keep going in my closet hoping to see some bubbles, but I don't see any. Does it take a day or two to start?


Yes, give it a day or 2. If you are using dry yeast, and you did not rehydrate your yeast, it may take a little longer to get going. I'd check up on it in a couple days, and check your temperature (room temperature if nothing else). If you have no bubbles going in your airlock, then simply take your fermenter and gently swirl it to get your yeast suspended again.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 12/30/13 at 8:36 am to
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I feel like this batch is doomed.


You're going to need to try a lot harder than you did to really doom a batch.
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