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Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:18 am to
Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:18 am to
also, out of curiosity, what mineral additions would you recommend making to RO water for this recipe? Something similar to an IPA profile?


5 lbs 8.0 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) 50.0 %
4 lbs 12.0 oz White Wheat Malt 43.2 %
8.0 oz Caravienne Malt 4.5 %
4.0 oz Acid Malt 2.3 %

Posted by Fratastic423
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
5990 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:21 am to
I use acid malt to drop the pH of the mash, so for me it is incorporated into the initial grain bill. I suppose if you were using it for flavor then adding to the end would be fine.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29802 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:04 am to
I use it in the mash like any other grain. Helps get my pH down some. How much are you using?

nm, just saw. 2.3% isn't going to give you much in the flavor department. I'd add it with the rest of the grain since it's mainly for pH based on your recipe.
This post was edited on 4/7/15 at 11:11 am
Posted by BMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
16812 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:09 am to
I have no experience in this, but the thought behind adding the acid malt later is that the lower pH can affect starch conversion if you add the acid malt in the beginning. But I'd have to defer to some of the guys who've used it before.
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
15815 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:45 am to
quote:

also, out of curiosity, what mineral additions would you recommend making to RO water for this recipe? Something similar to an IPA profile?


5 lbs 8.0 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) 50.0 %
4 lbs 12.0 oz White Wheat Malt 43.2 %
8.0 oz Caravienne Malt 4.5 %
4.0 oz Acid Malt 2.3 %




4 Grams Ea Gypsum and Calc. Chloride to Mash Stike Water(4.5 Gallons)
Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
Member since Aug 2004
16502 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:52 am to
thanks guys!
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
15815 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

LoneStarTiger



I just use the EZ Water Calculator spreadsheet. Should be easy to find online.

Don't have to put in too much info if using RO water so don't freak out about the top line.
Posted by Creamer
louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
2817 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 2:07 pm to
Is the 3724 started tthe same as other yeasts, or is it more complex? Also, is there any guide for turning all grain recipe to partial?
Posted by chity
Chicago, Il
Member since Dec 2008
6788 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 3:38 pm to
quote:

Is the 3724 started the same as other yeasts, or is it more complex? Also, is there any guide for turning all grain recipe to partial?


I just used a standard starter with DME and a stir plate. This worked fine.

I do not know of a guide for grain to partial.

When I was looking into this, another website said the 3724 was pressure sensitive. He said the pressure build up was just enough to suppress attenuation.

He recommended using an aluminum foil cap instead of an airlock. I did not do this. He said this yeast was cultured from a wine yeast and has some different peculiarities from your standard beer yeast.

I treated it like any other yeast and it seems to be working fine.
Posted by LSUGrad00
Member since Dec 2003
2428 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

Also, is there any guide for turning all grain recipe to partial?


If you post your recipe someone can convert it for you...
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29802 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 8:30 pm to
How partial is your partial mash? Like extract with a pound of specialty grains to steep? Or are you doing multiple pounds of grain and mashing them? Let us know the all grain recipe and your capabilities and we can convert it.
Posted by Creamer
louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
2817 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:27 pm to
My plan was to attempt the bottomland saison, which I am assuming or your recipe. I just don't have the setup to run a full grain run, I was hoping it may be possible as a partial.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
Member since Aug 2004
16502 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:25 pm to
What size batch are you wanting to make?
Posted by Creamer
louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
2817 posts
Posted on 4/8/15 at 5:34 am to
i usually do 5 gallon batches. I have been on a 2 or 3 year hiatus and just want to get a few more brews under my belt before investing in everything I would need for all grain.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29802 posts
Posted on 4/8/15 at 6:21 am to
11 lbs. Pilsner
1 lb Munich
1 lb Rye Malt
0.5 lbs Acidulated Malt

converts to

1.5 lbs Pils
1 lb Munich
1 lb Rye
0.5 lb Acidulated malt
7.125 lbs Pilsner LME or 5.7 lbs Pilsner DME.

I recommend adding the extract at the end of the boil to keep the beer as light as possible.

LINK
Posted by Creamer
louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
2817 posts
Posted on 4/8/15 at 10:15 am to
Do you still reccomend the danstar belle saison yeast? Also, should I make any changes to mash time or temp? Thanks a lot for the help, this is a great resource that wasn't around when I used to brew.
Posted by Chatagnier
Member since Sep 2008
6851 posts
Posted on 4/8/15 at 11:33 am to
Quick recommendation for an american IPA yeast?
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
15815 posts
Posted on 4/8/15 at 11:33 am to
WLP001.
Posted by Chatagnier
Member since Sep 2008
6851 posts
Posted on 4/8/15 at 11:37 am to
Thanks. I was deciding between that or WLP 051
Posted by kennypowers816
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2010
2449 posts
Posted on 4/8/15 at 11:39 am to
quote:

I recommend adding the extract at the end of the boil to keep the beer as light as possible.


In my limited experience, DME at the beginning of the boil will not darken the beer. LME definitely will (and did for me during my first beer).

I stir in DME as I bring it to a boil, and I stir in LME with ~5 min left.
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