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Posted on 6/10/14 at 6:20 pm to
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 6:20 pm to
Pulled a little taste of my Berliner. The lacto is working, but just a little slower than I had hoped. Gonna let it go one more day before boiling.

So this "corn" smell is going to go away, right?
This post was edited on 6/10/14 at 6:30 pm
Posted by BMoney
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 10:45 pm to
Kegged 3 beers after I got home this afternoon. The AC in my beer room crapped out an hour after I got back from 5 days away. At least all the fermenting beers were OK. Would have been disastrous if it went out while we were gone.
Posted by LSUGrad00
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:01 pm to
quote:

this "corn" smell is going to go away, right?


Yep, in my experience that should go away after you boil.

Trust me you'll know the off scents/flavors that don't go away if you pick them up.

Picked up some pureed vanilla from Redstick Spice Company yesterday for my WYES brew. Great people and products over there.
This post was edited on 6/10/14 at 11:05 pm
Posted by BottomlandBrew
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:13 pm to
quote:

Trust me you'll know the off scents/flavors that don't go away if you pick them up.


I know that smell all too well. Took me a week to get it out of my house.
Posted by Fratastic423
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Posted on 6/11/14 at 8:33 am to
quote:

BottomlandBrew


My post ended up being the last one on the last page, so you may have missed it.

Why again do you owe me beer, not that I am complaining? Are you going on Friday night, or just Saturday?
Posted by BottomlandBrew
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Posted on 6/11/14 at 9:25 am to
When I gave you that growler last time I said more was coming, but it wasn't ready yet. It's ready now. I'm only going on Saturday.
Posted by Fratastic423
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Posted on 6/11/14 at 9:42 am to
Oh, awesome then.

I may not be able to attend on Saturday actually, the club will but I may have to bail. So we would need to meet up on Saturday during the day. I am staying the night on Friday night but then may have to head back to BTR.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 6/11/14 at 10:27 am to
I have questions about making sours

I'll start with fermentation. Would I make a wort, ferment it with normal yeast, then secondary with brett and bugs?
Posted by BMoney
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Posted on 6/11/14 at 10:32 am to
quote:

Picked up some pureed vanilla from Redstick Spice Company yesterday for my WYES brew. Great people and products over there.


That's exactly what I used in my coffee vanilla porter that I kegged yesterday. That stuff is great.
Posted by LSUGrad00
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Posted on 6/11/14 at 10:35 am to
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Would I make a wort, ferment it with normal yeast, then secondary with brett and bugs?


it depends...

If you are trying to make a high starting gravity sour like Russian River, then you can pitch sacro first, wait for it to complete, and they pitch the bugs because typically there will still be enough sugars left after primary for the bugs to do their thing.

If you are making a low starting gravity sour, you typically pitch the bugs and yeast (or a blend) at the same time and let them fight it out.

At typical ale fermentation temps initial sacro growth will out pace the other bugs/brett but once those guys catch up there is plenty left behind that sacro cant eat for them to produce a good sour.
Posted by LSUGrad00
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Posted on 6/11/14 at 10:36 am to
quote:

That's exactly what I used in my coffee vanilla porter that I kegged yesterday.


I picked this up after you mentioned how well it worked for you on your porter.

Do you put the vanilla directly in the keg or in secondary?
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 6/11/14 at 10:36 am to
quote:

my coffee vanilla porter that I kegged yesterday


Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 6/11/14 at 10:44 am to
quote:

If you are trying to make a high starting gravity sour like Russian River,


this is basically what I envision. I'd like to try to make something that I can put on oak and maybe cherries, similar to Supplication, I guess.

I plan to bring several bottles of RR sours home in July, and I think I may try to make a starter with some and pitch it into a beer
Posted by Fratastic423
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Posted on 6/11/14 at 10:58 am to
For my RR clone, suspense and I fermented out with regular saccro first, then transferred into a secondary and added the brett/bugs along with black currants, then 6-8 months later we added the oak chips for a month, then bottled.
Posted by Fratastic423
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Posted on 6/11/14 at 10:58 am to
Sorry, double post
This post was edited on 6/11/14 at 10:59 am
Posted by BMoney
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Posted on 6/11/14 at 11:01 am to
quote:

I picked this up after you mentioned how well it worked for you on your porter.

Do you put the vanilla directly in the keg or in secondary?


I put it directly in the keg along with the cold brewed coffee, then rack the beer on top of it.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 6/11/14 at 11:02 am to
how did it turn out? what you hoped for, better, or not quite? would you do anything different the second time around?
Posted by Fratastic423
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Posted on 6/11/14 at 11:06 am to
We thought it was/is fantastic. One of the better beers either of us has made I would argue. Shame we decided to put it into big bottles and not small ones, since there are very few of them left. I can pull up the recipe when i go home for lunch and post it if you would like. The one thing you can't really get on your own is wood from RR barrels (ours was a kit from MoreBeer).
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/11/14 at 11:08 am to
quote:

I can pull up the recipe when i go home for lunch and post it if you would like


that would be awesome, thanks!
Posted by Fratastic423
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Posted on 6/11/14 at 1:26 pm to
Russian River Consecration Clone Recipe

11 lbs 2-Row
1 lb Dark Belgian Candi Syrup
1 lb Corn Sugar
8 oz Acid Malt
4 oz Special B
4 oz Carafa (I just wrote down Carafa, so I would assume Carafa Special II)

Mash at 158

.5 oz Styrian Golding 90 min
1 oz Sterling 30
1 oz Sterling 1

Wyeast Abbey Ale at 72 degrees

Secondary - for 6 months
1 lb Black Currants
Wyeast Brettanomyces Blend

Add Wine Oak Chips for an additional 2 months

Bottle with re-hydrated wine yeast and corn sugar
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