re: Heberts Specialty Meats in Destin Fl….

Correct. And the package says “ready to cook”, not “ready to eat”.

Wrong. If it’s a fully cooked meat product, you can open the package and eat it. Meat products labeled fully cooked must be safe to eat right out the pack. That’s why packages say “serving suggestions” when telling you how to reheat it but ready to cook products have safe handling labels.

And pork sausage is stuffed and the lethality is below 165. But you said i should know that anything stuffed is 165, brah.

Not all fully cooked meat products are reheated, brah. By your educated logic, when you make a Turkey or ham sandwich, you have to cook it to 165 after you open the package. That’s not true, and the safe temperature for Turkey deli meat is not 165 because you don’t reheat it. It’s fully cooked. And if it’s fully cooked, it has to be safe to eat straight out the package.

Smoked sausage and hot dogs that are fully cooked have to be safe to eat straight out the package. There are loopholes in the USDA regs that allow some products like smoked sausage to classify as ready to cook even though they are technically cooked (met lethality). This benefits processors so they don’t have to undergo strenuous listeria testing. The loophole is easy and involves changing one simple specific ingredient. You can see it on the label.

Since you teach people how to cook, brah, and you’re educated, brah, why don’t you answer the original question? Is packaged boudin simmered in hot water before packaged? Is it, brah?

The person who successfully brings Cracklings to SoFL is gonna be a rich individual. I brought back 2lbs and watched 3 Puerto Rican’s eat them in half an hour. Sure, they could shite through a straw for 48 hours; but, they had the times of their lives.

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Wrong. If it’s a fully cooked meat product, you can open the package and eat it

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Just because you can, doesn't mean you will. As a meat packer you should know that the intended purpose of the product also dictates how you handle it.

Sure, you CAN open a pack of hot dogs and eat one but, unless you're high AF with the munchies, the probability of someone doing that is extremely low. It's good to know they will be safe if they choose this route but, the intended purpose of that product is to be reheated prior to consumption.

Ergo, your argument is completely irrelevant.

Only way to prove your point is to video yourself taking a prepackaged link of boudin straight out of the fridge and eating it. Then posting it in this thread. Ball is in your court, brah!

Step up or step off!

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Just because you can, doesn't mean you will

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Doesn’t matter. The USDA says you can and therefore that’s the regulations. It’s an argument the sausage processors have been making for years which is probably why the USDA hasn’t closed the loophole.

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As a meat packer you should know that the intended purpose of the product also dictates how you handle it.

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You’re wrong bruh. The processor does not get to tell the USDA what the intended purpose is. The USDA has already had intellectuals in an office figure that out. There’s something called a standard of identity. If you call your product a certain name, and it has a standard of identity, then it’s already written how your product can be eaten, you don’t get to decide. You don’t work with the USDA, educate yourself bruh.

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Only way to prove your point is to video yourself taking a prepackaged link of boudin straight out of the fridge and eating it.

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Brah, reading comprehension is important. Boudin is NOT fully cooked, ergo you will not eat it out the package. Ergo, that’s why that’s safe handling labels on the package.

You teach people how to cook and that’s awesome. Stop acting like you’re a meat processor because you aren’t. Instead of trying to disprove every fact I give, why don’t you ask a meat processor if it’s true? Bruh. Everything I say, you attack. You sound like an amazing open minded individual.

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The processor does not get to tell the USDA what the intended purpose is. The USDA has already had intellectuals in an office figure that out. There’s something called a standard of identity. If you call your product a certain name, and it has a standard of identity, then it’s already written how your product can be eaten, you don’t get to decide.

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I did not say the processor gets to tell the USDA what the intended purpose is. Tell me, what is the USDA's established standards of identity for boudin?

Back to my point, some retail packaged boudin are fully cooked and others are uncooked. Just like there is cooked and uncooked sausage. Yes, you could technically eat fully cooked smoked sausage, hot dogs, and boudin without cooking them. But, guidelines dictate that if you are going to heat it (what most people intend to do with them) they need to be reheated to above 165°F to eliminate risks of listeria. It is right there in the reheating instructions. Who requires the heating instructions on the label?

I'm not talking about safe handling instructions, I'm strictly referring to reheating instructions.

You seem like a pretty unstable person, all I stated was the reheat instruction requirements and you start babbling about eating is straight out of the package. Of course you can eat fully cooked food without reheating it but, if your intended purpose is to reheat and eat there are guidelines you should follow. Reheated food is treated just like raw food with regards to the minimum internal temperature.

Can you answer my question please?

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SixthAndBarone

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Dude give it a rest

Alright mouton, which companies simmer their boudin in hot water before packing? You claim they do, so tell us who does. Tell us.