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re: Going to try crawfish... help.

Posted on 3/5/18 at 8:32 am to
Posted by Ed Osteen
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Posted on 3/5/18 at 8:32 am to
He’s talking about the shellfish and chicken being mixed in the same pot
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 3/5/18 at 8:37 am to
Yeah. If I’m allergic to shellfish, A I’m not going to a boil, and B there’s no way in hell im eating chicken that was boiled in water after a sack of shellfish was in there.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 3/5/18 at 8:49 am to
The beer is fine. Many people do that. I don’t think it adds anything but I’ve done it before.

I was talking about boiling longer, adding seasoning after they are boiled, adding garlic and onion at the end, etc
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 3/5/18 at 8:50 am to
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Btw, John Folse knows a thing or two about cooking and he puts beer in his crawfish.


That means absolutely nothing.

This guy uses beer too.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 3/5/18 at 8:52 am to
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Done it a thousand times and this isn't true at all.

When you boil chicken for jambalaya or gumbo, do you throw the water out or use it? Plus, when you boil stuff, it kills off everything in the boil. Just like when you have to boil water before you drink it.


Wrong. I'm allergic to shellfish, and you cannot boil chicken in the same water. When you are allergic to shellfish the real allergy is usually iodine, which will bleed into the chicken. They may not be that sensitive to it, but you are completely wrong boiling does not kill off iodine.

I go to boils and usually just bring my own food and just hang out and drink, but I know a guy that couldn't even go or he would have a reaction. Please don't feed people food out of the same pot of water if they are allergic to shellfish.

ETA: also why would I want to eat boiled chicken anyway?
This post was edited on 3/5/18 at 8:54 am
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 3/5/18 at 9:09 am to
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ETA: also why would I want to eat boiled chicken anyway?


Right? And the jambalaya/gumbo reference makes no sense. You brown the shite out of the chicken before it simmers.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104181 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 9:26 am to
I was referring to the raw chicken reference, not killing off what makes people allergic to shellfish. The friends I have that say they're allergic to crawfish can eat the other stuff we put into boil. If you say otherwise, that's fine. Like you say, maybe they're just not as sensitive.

The chicken comes out delicious just like the sausage, hot dogs, corn and just about anything else you put in crab boil. shite, I know people that put in cauliflower and eat it too.

There are a million ways to cook good crawfish. I'm glad everyone likes their way. Happy eating.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127898 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 10:16 am to
Troy:

What is the size of your pot, how many people will be attending?
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/5/18 at 10:17 am to
I have had this recipe on my store for years, nothing fancy, but you'll have to adjust quantities.

NOT on the link, I usually use an old crawfish bag and place my onions, potatoes and corn in it to boil for about 15 minutes before I throw in the crawfish
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Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 3/5/18 at 10:41 am to
I just leave my potatoes in the bag they come in.

I don't put in the corn until I turn off the heat. I put them in frozen at the beginning of the soak.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16540 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 10:48 am to
quote:

The friends I have that say they're allergic to crawfish can eat the other stuff we put into boil. If you say otherwise, that's fine. Like you say, maybe they're just not as sensitive.


Yeah I would say your friends are full of shite.

You do not mix foods when preparing them if someone is allergic. You could kill someone.
This post was edited on 3/5/18 at 10:49 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127898 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 10:50 am to
Troy, the reason I ask the size of your pot or the amount of people have is that will have an impact on the portions.

I have a pretty large pot: 125 quarts, that I can easily put an entire 35-40 pound sack in.

I fill the pot halfway up with water and kick on the jets.

I then add 6-8 yellow onions cut in half, 7-8 cloves of garlic, 6-8 lemons, cut in half and squeezed into the water, and I put in 3 oranges cut in half and squeezed into the water.

I use a bag and a half of Louisiana seasoning and a 8oz liquid crab boil.

I throw in my bag of potatoes as well.

Put the lid on. When the water comes to a boil, I put in my crawfish.

Some people at this point will do one of two things:

a) Immediately shut off the jets once the water has started to even foam a little, put ice in the water, your frozen corn and sausage and whatever else you want in there, hose off the outside of the pot and let the crawfish soak for 20-30 until they are all sunk to the bottom

or

b) Put the crawfish in, and let the pot come back up to a boil, and then immediately cut off and do all of the other steps in a.

In the past, I would let it come back to a boil before shutting it off. Recently I have only had the jets on very briefly before shutting off the jets and bringing the temperature down. Its something that is debated on.

There are other things you can do. Some people like to add frozen orange juice concentrate when they put the ice in. Some people like to add things like celery salt and bay leaves in the initial seasoning.

I would go with the very basics before you start getting wild.


If you're doing a second batch, don't dump the water:

same amount of onions, garlic etc, same amount of liquid crab boil, but HALF the seasoning, or an entire bag instead of a bag and half (depending on how hot the first batch was).


Make sure you wash the crawfish out thoroughly before you put them in the pot, and do NOT do the old purging thing covering them in salt, that is bullshite.
This post was edited on 3/5/18 at 10:53 am
Posted by USMCTIGER1970
BATON ROUGE
Member since Mar 2017
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Posted on 3/5/18 at 10:52 am to
quote:

Wrong. I'm allergic to shellfish, and you cannot boil chicken in the same water. When you are allergic to shellfish the real allergy is usually iodine, which will bleed into the chicken. They may not be that sensitive to it, but you are completely wrong boiling does not kill off iodine. I go to boils and usually just bring my own food and just hang out and drink, but I know a guy that couldn't even go or he would have a reaction. Please don't feed people food out of the same pot of water if they are allergic to shellfish.


I am allergic to shellfish also, but for some reason I can eat anything out of the pot but the crawfish, even if the are boiled together. Now when it comes to shrimp and crabs that is a not the case! Weird.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104181 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 11:21 am to
quote:

Make sure you wash the crawfish out thoroughly before you put them in the pot, and do NOT do the old purging thing covering them in salt, that is bullshite.

Exactly

quote:

If you're doing a second batch, don't dump the water: 

It's unbelievable how many arguments I've had with people telling me that you had to dump the water.
This post was edited on 3/5/18 at 11:23 am
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 3/5/18 at 11:31 am to
Here's a trick I learned to save some time.

Boil your potatoes in a pot on the stove ahead of time. When you are ready to boil the crawfish, drop them in the big pot with the crawfish. This will save you time, especially between batches.

This post was edited on 3/5/18 at 11:33 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127898 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 11:36 am to
quote:

It's unbelievable how many arguments I've had with people telling me that you had to dump the water.


I've literally never heard of anyone dumping the water for the 2nd batch.

Now the 3rd batch...let's just say some people are lazy.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127898 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 11:37 am to
quote:

Boil your potatoes in a pot on the stove ahead of time. When you are ready to boil the crawfish, drop them in the big pot with the crawfish. This will save you time, especially between batches.



Genuinely curious: why would this save any time? Seems like a completely unnecessary step.

I just put the bag in when I'm putting in my seasonings. The potatoes come out fine when I dump the crawfish at the end after the soak.
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
23081 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 11:38 am to
Just don't ever use a wooden paddle to remove the basket, I have a friend that got 3rd degree burns on his leg when the paddle broke.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127898 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 11:42 am to
I'm thinking about investing in some shrimp boots. Last time I boiled I just had sneakers on and the water spilled out and scalded my toes. Had to take off my shoes and socks.
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
23081 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 11:44 am to
My momma burnt the top of her foot (cooking barefoot) with hot roux when I was a kid, she was in sandles a few months.
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