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re: Fine Wine Frauds
Posted on 7/9/19 at 11:54 am to rowbear1922
Posted on 7/9/19 at 11:54 am to rowbear1922
Sour Grapes is a fantastic documentary.
So many hilarious moments with wine collectors being told their alleged 64' clos de blah blah is not really that.
Love the guy who says "I only drink Krug, if I can't drink Krug, drink Coors Light" or something like that.
So many hilarious moments with wine collectors being told their alleged 64' clos de blah blah is not really that.
Love the guy who says "I only drink Krug, if I can't drink Krug, drink Coors Light" or something like that.
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 11:54 am to Pettifogger
Part marketing park quality
Like I can Tell the difference between Belle Glos andnits cheaper cousins Meiomi and Elouan
But is it a 30 dollar difference?
That may be actually more involved with the production than the marketing.
Elouan and Meiomi are locally sourced but not from a single vineyard. Which usually is more labor intensive.
Like I can Tell the difference between Belle Glos andnits cheaper cousins Meiomi and Elouan
But is it a 30 dollar difference?
That may be actually more involved with the production than the marketing.
Elouan and Meiomi are locally sourced but not from a single vineyard. Which usually is more labor intensive.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:00 pm to SammyTiger
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Part marketing park quality
Like I can Tell the difference between Belle Glos andnits cheaper cousins Meiomi and Elouan
But is it a 30 dollar difference?
That may be actually more involved with the production than the marketing.
Elouan and Meiomi are locally sourced but not from a single vineyard. Which usually is more labor intensive.
Meiomi is no longer associated with Belle Glos. Belle Glos sold it off and it's its own entity now.
What made Meiomi such a hit was Belle Glos made their more expensive 3 single vineyard wines. Throughout the process, if a barrel didn't quite cut the quality to be a single vineyard, it was blended along with similar barrels from the other vineyards and sold as Meiomi. Same grapes, same attention to detail, just not quite enough to be "Clark & Telephone", "Los Alturas" or "Dairyman"
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:04 pm to TH03
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The average consumer will pretend they know what good wine tastes like, but most bottles $10-50ish need a story or an attitude or a glamour lifestyle or a pretty label to sell, especially on the domestic side
I'm aware. We used to sell Ehlers 1886 frequently purely because all the profits went to cardiovascular research and if you turn the bottle 90 degrees the E becomes a heart.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:13 pm to rowbear1922
You should see how shite like 19 crimes sells just because of their app with the wine labels.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:14 pm to I B Freeman
quote:so you're cheap
cringe if I have to pay $8 a glass in a restaurant.
Good for you
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:25 pm to TH03
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You should see how shite like 19 crimes sells just because of their app with the wine labels.
Yea, that didn't become popular until after I got out of the business. If it helps sell, I say have at it, but it's basically a newer version of the Grey Goose business model.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:35 pm to rowbear1922
Right and blending smoothies the edges hit loses some prestige.
It’s a great wine.
Not as good as Belle aglow but is is a 30-40 dollar difference.
Well I drink More Elouan and Meiomi than Belle Glos is I ‘ll Say.
It’s a great wine.
Not as good as Belle aglow but is is a 30-40 dollar difference.
Well I drink More Elouan and Meiomi than Belle Glos is I ‘ll Say.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:57 pm to fallguy_1978
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I can't really tell the difference between a $15 bottle and a $50 one.
At the winery you can easily taste the difference. Once it’s been sitting on a hot truck being shaken to death, the wine losses some of its magic.
Also, once you learn the difference, certain cheap wines are ruined forever.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:01 pm to SammyTiger
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Right and blending smoothies the edges hit loses some prestige.
It’s a great wine.
Not as good as Belle aglow but is is a 30-40 dollar difference.
Well I drink More Elouan and Meiomi than Belle Glos is I ‘ll Say.
I wouldn't call any of them "great" but they are well known and are drinkable plus they look good as a party favor. I wouldn't order it at a restaurant unless it's all they had.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:03 pm to rowbear1922
Not many domestic Pinots I like. Sea smoke is good though.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:10 pm to TH03
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Not many domestic Pinots I like
Not digging some of the small producers from Willamette Valley?
Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:10 pm to TH03
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Not many domestic Pinots I like. Sea smoke is good though.
Agreed. Seasmoke is good stuff. I also like some of the Kosta Browns too.
When it comes to pinot, I like old world style. Most of the Cali stuff I can pass on.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:13 pm to Rouge
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so you're cheap
Good for you
Says the guy that complains about tipping
Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:14 pm to TH03
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High quality producers are not marketing like the low quality ones are.
The mass produced consumer wines like barefoot, yellowtail, Sutter home, Woodbridge, et al are spending millions and millions on marketing. More than anyone else. No high quality producer $100+ is spending that kind of money on marketing.
You and I can't even tour Sassicaia and do a tasting. We could at Ornellaia but tasting there start at 85 euro and have to be booked months in advance.
The best thing I can suggest to people that don't get wine is to do a vertical tasting. Then you can actually taste and see the changes in that particular wine as it ages. Drinking a great wine in its prime is a great experience.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:17 pm to rowbear1922
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When it comes to pinot, I like old world style. Most of the Cali stuff I can pass on.
Me too. I drink a lot of Louis Latour.
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Not digging some of the small producers from Willamette Valley?
Yes, but I just haven't tasted enough. Soter makes some good stuff.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:47 pm to TH03
wasnt there a thread that had a big nice list of great cheaper bottles of wine? if not yall should do one.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 3:53 pm to CarRamrod
Ha what’s “cheap” though
Posted on 7/9/19 at 4:05 pm to SammyTiger
Cheap to me for the most part is $20-$25. Depends on what you like.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 4:10 pm to SammyTiger
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Ha what’s “cheap” though
Pretty sure it was best wines under $20 or similar.
ETA: Here's one:
My 20 Favorite Wines of 2018 for Under $20
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 4:13 pm
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