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Favorite chicken stock recipes/techniques
Posted on 3/28/17 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 3/28/17 at 12:53 pm
I made some this weekend and had enough leftover to make a double recipe of dumplings and gumbo.
My recipe probably sucks, here's what I do and I'd love your tips:
- 5lbs of chicken thighs chopped in half
- 20 cups water
- 20 whole peppercorns
- fresh parsley
- carrot cut into 5 pieces
- 1/2 onion
- bay leaf
- fresh thyme
- garlic clove
dumped everything in, brought it to boiling then left it on to simmer 4 hours and strained.
pretty boring, anyone got a stock recipe to die for?
My recipe probably sucks, here's what I do and I'd love your tips:
- 5lbs of chicken thighs chopped in half
- 20 cups water
- 20 whole peppercorns
- fresh parsley
- carrot cut into 5 pieces
- 1/2 onion
- bay leaf
- fresh thyme
- garlic clove
dumped everything in, brought it to boiling then left it on to simmer 4 hours and strained.
pretty boring, anyone got a stock recipe to die for?
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:05 pm to CAD703X
Why not just do a couple of whole chickens? Seems like it would get you more flavor and possibly be cheaper, although thighs are really cheap.
I have wanted to try this but never set aside the time to give it a try.
I have wanted to try this but never set aside the time to give it a try.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:13 pm to CAD703X
It really depends on the purpose of the stock as far as what I put in the water. I don't use bay, thyme or garlic in plain old chicken soup, so I wouldn't add those flavors. Sometimes, I roast the bones etc... and sometimes, I don't.
Much of the time, I will put it all in a big roaster and let it slow simmer overnight. Makes it easy.
One of the best tasting stocks I've made is a ham stock with meaty ham bones. I've made it plain and I've made it with red wine and herbs for soups. I could drink that stuff.
Much of the time, I will put it all in a big roaster and let it slow simmer overnight. Makes it easy.
One of the best tasting stocks I've made is a ham stock with meaty ham bones. I've made it plain and I've made it with red wine and herbs for soups. I could drink that stuff.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:18 pm to Gris Gris
Ina Garten stock recipe (I've tried it, it's good)
3 (5-pound) roasting chickens
3 large yellow onions, unpeeled and quartered
6 carrots, unpeeled and halved
4 stalks celery with leaves, cut into thirds
4 parsnips, unpeeled and cut in half, optional
20 sprigs fresh parsley
15 sprigs fresh thyme
20 sprigs fresh dill
1 head garlic, unpeeled and cut in 1/2 crosswise
2 tablespoons kosher salt
2 teaspoons whole black peppercorns
Place the chickens, onions, carrots, celery, parsnips, parsley, thyme, dill, garlic, and seasonings in a 16 to 20-quart stockpot. Add 7 quarts of water and bring to a boil. Simmer, uncovered, for 4 hours. Strain the entire contents of the pot through a colander and discard the solids. Chill the stock overnight. The next day, remove the surface fat. Use immediately or pack in containers and freeze for up to 3 months.
3 (5-pound) roasting chickens
3 large yellow onions, unpeeled and quartered
6 carrots, unpeeled and halved
4 stalks celery with leaves, cut into thirds
4 parsnips, unpeeled and cut in half, optional
20 sprigs fresh parsley
15 sprigs fresh thyme
20 sprigs fresh dill
1 head garlic, unpeeled and cut in 1/2 crosswise
2 tablespoons kosher salt
2 teaspoons whole black peppercorns
Place the chickens, onions, carrots, celery, parsnips, parsley, thyme, dill, garlic, and seasonings in a 16 to 20-quart stockpot. Add 7 quarts of water and bring to a boil. Simmer, uncovered, for 4 hours. Strain the entire contents of the pot through a colander and discard the solids. Chill the stock overnight. The next day, remove the surface fat. Use immediately or pack in containers and freeze for up to 3 months.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:23 pm to CAD703X
I've never measured so I don't have a recipe.
For various reasons, I like to purchase whole chickens, which after portioning, I'm left with a beautiful carcass, heart, gizzard, etc. I also use scraps of veggies that would normally hit the garbage in other kitchens.
Roasting bones before using in a stock also adds a ton of flavor.
I place my chicken carcasses, backbones, necks etc. into room temp water. Add onion, celery, carrots, garlic, a bit of whole peppercorns to taste. One or two bay leaves depending on the size of what you're stocking...too many can make things bitter, thyme if you have it, and I love to use fresh ginger.
Skim off the top as it comes to a simmer and let it go for as long as you can. I've recently purchased a 12 quart stock pot for my home use which I can let the whole shebang reduce for a longer period of time, and it's amazing how much more flavor I can get from reducing a larger volume of liquid.
Add shrimp or other shells near the end for an added layer of sweetness.
If you use chicken thighs like a previous poster, after you refrigerate the stock you will have a solid layer of fat on top which you can take off. I'd recommend carcass bones and/or chicken wings, not fatty dark meat portions. I lop off the tips of chicken wings which is excellent for stock. My apologies Gris Gris, because I know you like to keep these on the wings for a crispy treat. Mine go into my stock.
For various reasons, I like to purchase whole chickens, which after portioning, I'm left with a beautiful carcass, heart, gizzard, etc. I also use scraps of veggies that would normally hit the garbage in other kitchens.
Roasting bones before using in a stock also adds a ton of flavor.
I place my chicken carcasses, backbones, necks etc. into room temp water. Add onion, celery, carrots, garlic, a bit of whole peppercorns to taste. One or two bay leaves depending on the size of what you're stocking...too many can make things bitter, thyme if you have it, and I love to use fresh ginger.
Skim off the top as it comes to a simmer and let it go for as long as you can. I've recently purchased a 12 quart stock pot for my home use which I can let the whole shebang reduce for a longer period of time, and it's amazing how much more flavor I can get from reducing a larger volume of liquid.
Add shrimp or other shells near the end for an added layer of sweetness.
If you use chicken thighs like a previous poster, after you refrigerate the stock you will have a solid layer of fat on top which you can take off. I'd recommend carcass bones and/or chicken wings, not fatty dark meat portions. I lop off the tips of chicken wings which is excellent for stock. My apologies Gris Gris, because I know you like to keep these on the wings for a crispy treat. Mine go into my stock.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:31 pm to Degas
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My apologies Gris Gris, because I know you like to keep these on the wings for a crispy treat. Mine go into my stock.
I buy packs of wings to make stocks since I never have any extra wing tips.
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Roasting bones before using in a stock also adds a ton of flavor.
I agree and I think roasting vegetables does the same, but I don't always do it when I want a good clear chicken stock/broth. Otherwise, I generally do. I made a roasted chicken stock for chicken soup a few weeks ago, though. It was rather dark in color, but it was quite good, as usual.
Parsnips is something I've been wanting to include and I keep forgetting to buy them. I haven't had much experience with them.
I pretty much always roast beef bones for stock. Same for turkey.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:37 pm to Degas
Everything Degas said.
to take it a step further.
roast your bones in a 350-375 oven in a 2" deep roasting pan. about 1 hour turning them at the 30 min mark.
when done throw them in the stock pot.
throw all of your mis-cut veggie scraps in same(not cleaned!!!)roasting pan and drizzle w/ a little olive oil. roast all of your veggies at the same temp for another hour stirring around at the 30m min mark.
when done throw those in the stock pot.
take the roasting pan and set it on two burners on your stovetop on med/high heat. then deglaze w/ 1/2 or 3/4 bottle of dry white wine. scraping up all the fond from the bottom of your roasting pan.
then pour all of that in your stock pot. fill with COLD water and bring to a low simmer for 4 hours.
to take it a step further.
roast your bones in a 350-375 oven in a 2" deep roasting pan. about 1 hour turning them at the 30 min mark.
when done throw them in the stock pot.
throw all of your mis-cut veggie scraps in same(not cleaned!!!)roasting pan and drizzle w/ a little olive oil. roast all of your veggies at the same temp for another hour stirring around at the 30m min mark.
when done throw those in the stock pot.
take the roasting pan and set it on two burners on your stovetop on med/high heat. then deglaze w/ 1/2 or 3/4 bottle of dry white wine. scraping up all the fond from the bottom of your roasting pan.
then pour all of that in your stock pot. fill with COLD water and bring to a low simmer for 4 hours.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:44 pm to mrservon
Is there anything you can do with the chicken after or has it been boiled to death and is inedible? I hate to waste 2-3 chickens just for stock although it sounds like some of you think it is worth it.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:45 pm to mrservon
When I make stock, I usually make a lot at once, so quite often, I use those long deep foil roasting pans I buy at Sam's that caterers use. After the chicken or whatever has roasted well, I add whatever liquid I want to use to deglaze the foil roaster since I can't put them on the stove. I put them back in the oven and let them come to a simmer. That allows me to get all the fond off the bottom and the top easily. It cooks right off into the stock.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:48 pm to BigB0882
quote:The dark meat would be fine to throw into a gumbo. The white meat...uh....you have dogs?
Is there anything you can do with the chicken after or has it been boiled to death and is inedible?
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:50 pm to BigB0882
quote:
Is there anything you can do with the chicken after or has it been boiled to death and is inedible? I hate to waste 2-3 chickens just for stock although it sounds like some of you think it is worth it.
For chicken, I buy necks, backs and wings. I don't think I've ever used whole chickens. You could probably make some chicken salad similar to the texture of Calvin's. My sister makes chicken cakes similar to crabcakes. Not sure what she uses, but overcooked chicken meat would likely work.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:57 pm to Gris Gris
quote:Where do you purchase your chicken backs?
For chicken, I buy necks, backs
Posted on 3/28/17 at 2:05 pm to Degas
I usually see packs of necks and backs together in packs at the stores. A butcher could probably get you a good bit of those.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 2:48 pm to CAD703X
Put it in the slow cooker and let it simmer for like 24 hours baw.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 6:48 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
The main thing to get a good stock it to roast your bones to give them some color before you simmer them
Posted on 3/28/17 at 6:57 pm to CAD703X
Let it go longer than 4 hours, put it in the oven at 210 , overnight
Posted on 3/28/17 at 7:38 pm to KyrieElaison
quote:should the bones be cracked open or split first?
The main thing to get a good stock it to roast your bones to give them some color before you simmer them
This post was edited on 3/28/17 at 7:39 pm
Posted on 3/28/17 at 7:38 pm to Tigerpaw123
quote:the stock not the bones right?
Let it go longer than 4 hours, put it in the oven at 210 , overnight
Posted on 3/28/17 at 7:42 pm to Gris Gris
I save the backs and wing tips off of chickens that I spatchcock and freeze them. When the gallon ziplock is full, I'll roast them with mirepoix and then dump all that in a pot, cover with water, add parsley, a bay leaf and some peppercorns. Simmer for several hours, strain, chill and scrape off the fat the next day when it's cooled off. Usually makes around 3 quarts or so.
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