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Bonci Pizza in New Orleans

Posted on 8/21/19 at 2:34 pm
Posted by tigerlife00
Member since Jul 2014
210 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 2:34 pm
Anyone tried the new Bonci Pizza in nola? It's a pizza chain from Rome, only the third one to open in the U.S. Was hoping for some info before I make the trip.
Posted by Sherman Klump
Wellman College
Member since Jul 2011
4457 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 2:37 pm to
Pizza is good. Set up bad.
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9925 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 3:01 pm to
Agree. Tasty pizza. Pain in the arse if it’s crowded.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 3:06 pm to
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Pizza is good. Set up bad.

Yes, exactly. I've been three times now, and the counter service layout and line/queue and payment only work if there isn't anyone in line.

They're not going to prosper unless they make some changes.
-Put up a damn sign saying what's available so people don't have to mill around looking in the case. If it changes frequently, put up an LED screen that is easily changed.
-Put up a clear queue, so people don't have to stand around in an undifferentiated mass, gawking at the pizzas and trying to figure out if their number has been called.
-Stop having the food cutting/handling employees be the same person who runs the credit card (it doesn't accept cash). Employees are constantly wasting steps and seconds as they move back and forth. Why on earth wouldn't you have a designated person who follows the customer down the display, cuts what he/she wants, and then turns the pizza and ticket over to someone who weighs and charges?
--the area between the door and the line is, like, 2 feet. Did I mention this is also the pass from the service counter/warming area to the dining room? Truly, it's an amateur hour shitshow of terrible organization. Anyone with half a brain and 30 minutes of hospitality experience could do a little reconfiguring and improve the flow.
--it has no rear entrance, so deliveries come through that same front door, right through the scrum of customers waiting to be served

I hope they sort it out, b/c I'd like to use it for some regular meeting catering. At present, they're still in too much of a kerfuffle to pull it off.

Pizza is good to excellent, depending on the toppings.
This post was edited on 8/21/19 at 3:07 pm
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
18893 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 10:53 pm to
LoL. I was there two days after they opened and the owner was walking around. It was every bit the clusterfrick you describe. I almost pulled the guy aside to point out the issues but they were so glaringly obvious I couldn’t bring myself to do it.

If they don’t change the setup I predict the place closes within the year. It was painful to watch.
Posted by MetrySaint24
Metairie
Member since Nov 2018
693 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 12:15 am to
Went to the one in Rome. It was exactly the same. Packed and pure chaos. Gave up after about 15 minutes of trying to order or even get someone’s attention.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 9:20 am to
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I almost pulled the guy aside to point out the issues but they were so glaringly obvious I couldn’t bring myself to do it.

I actually had a long chat with him on visit #2, when I waited and waited for my heated takeout order to be handed over. He could see that I'd been there a while, and he was trying to make nice. So my mouthy self had to make a laundry list of suggestions....he clapped back, about how they didn't want it to be like "fast food" with a designated line, how the offerings change constantly so a sign wouldn't work, blah blah. He seemed to think most of the issues were related to employees not working at optimum output when anyone with eyes could see that the biggest problems were in front of the counter & not behind it.

Went for a very early lunch/late breakfast & the place was empty. Everything worked fine then, but the whole open kitchen/prep layout was designed without a single coherent thought toward managing a line of customers or crossing traffic from the entry door.

RE: it being "just like Rome"....yeah, it is, kinda. But the Rome location is in semi-boring Prati/behind the Vatican....it serves mostly tourists & wandering locals, not a business-district lunch crowd expecting a quick turnaround time from a restaurant with already-prepared pizza.

One thing was weird on visit 3: hot pizzas were coming out of the oven and going right into the display case. Several pieces I selected were bubbling....yet they were still loaded onto a tray and put into the warming oven. I can see warming something that needs it, but bubbling pizza? And they also warmed a fresh tomato/arugula topped segment that absolutely didn't need a second blast of heat....what's the point of using fresh tom & arugula added after the pizza comes out of the oven if you're just gonna shove it back into the oven?
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278154 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 10:12 am to
So how is the food?
Posted by fastedLSU
BR
Member since Sep 2007
4477 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 10:23 am to
1. They DON’T take cash? Wtf
2. Isn’t only having 1 entrance/exit against fire code?
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 10:46 am to
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So how is the food?

Good to great, depending on the topping choices. I've sampled a few (this is from memory, so don't quote me)
--potato & cheese; surprisingly delicious for such a simple combo
--sausage & scrambled eggs; not something I'd order every day, but was quite tasty at 11 am on a Sat.
--tomato, mozzarella, arugula; classic. Would have liked it better if not reheated to wilt the arugula
--spicy calabrese salami; tasty
--zucchini & ricotta; my favorite by far
--at least three more topping choices, which I didn't photograph so I can't precisely remember

Also tried a suppli (aka arancino). It was a rice & tomato mix stuffed w/mozz. Can't really judge it as I got it takeout & reheated it two days later. By that point, it was a bit heavy...innards were delicious, tho.

Crust here is a naturally leavened, bubbly, airy cousin of focaccia....it's closer to the Roman pizza bianca than most traditional Roman pizza al taglio (which is flatter/thinner, in my experience). It is crisp and flavorful, as much a part of the whole as the toppings.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 10:48 am to
quote:

They DON’T take cash? Wtf

Ostensibly, they don't take cash to speed up transaction time. Whether places should or should not take cash is a whole separate thread.

There are just as many ppl who hate cash-only places as there are ppl who hate no-cash establishments.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278154 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 10:51 am to
Is a place that takes reservations? I’m not sure I fully understand the concept
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 11:03 am to
quote:

Is a place that takes reservations? I’m not sure I fully understand the concept

It's a replication of a Roman style typical pizza establishment that sells pizza cooked in long planks, topped with various combinations of seasonal & traditional things. Customers don't get to choose the toppings; the pizza shop or bakery makes various kinds and puts them out. In the Roman original shops, this kind of pizza is sold by the length--you tell the counter person how much you want (usually by weight, un'etto, due'etti, or 100 or 200 grams or by pointing or showing how big a piece you'd like). It's priced by weight, depending on the toppings. Your slice/portion is heated or not, depending, wrapped in paper, and handed over. You go off and eat it (most of these places don't have much seating, if any).

The NO incarnation of Bonci tries to preserve this style of service, with no formal line. At Bonci, you walk through the door, take a numbered paper ticket, and stand around in a mass of ppl near the display counter until your number is called. Then you step up to the counter and indicate which of the pizzas on display you'd like, and how much. Counter person cuts your pizza, weighs it, you hand over your credit card and pay, remembering to order a drink if necessary, & get a receipt with a DIFFERENT number on it. Pizza goes into a hot warming oven; you go take a seat at a table and wait for your second number to be called.

Half of the ppl in line don't understand the process, don't remember to order a drink along with the pizza (as there is no list of what's on offer, and the drinks case is not adjacent to the pizza case), don't understand that the receipt has a different number than their initial number.....and the mass of ppl waiting to be served means you don't know what kinds of pizza are on offer until you push your way to the front of the herd...so service slows down while ppl unfamiliar with the combinations/ingredients try to make up their minds.

In short, a CF of typically Italian proportions, like mailing something at an Italian post office LOL.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
18893 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 11:23 am to
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Then you step up to the counter and indicate which of the pizzas on display you'd like, and how much.


Herein lies the issue. The only way to see what pizzas are available is to move up and down the counter and look at them. While your counter guy cuts them.

EXCEPT...

There is no rope or line to keep everyone else waiting away from the counter. So they all belly up to the counter to stare through the glass. So to look you have to fight your way through the crowd back and forth. Plus there are two counter guys working two customers at any one time. So they are crossing over each other as well.

To really make it fun, I went with four other people and I was paying for the whole group. So when our number was called, I had five people trying to get to the counter and order from one guy. And he didn't have enough room on his staging space to sit our whole order. It was a huge mess and, now that I have posted again in this thread and relived the nightmare, I am never going back.*



*Fun fact. The restaurant sits on top of an old parking lot. The exact spot where the restaurant sits was where a group of my friends and families have Mardi Gras tailgated for 30 years. The restaurant isn't just in the same parking lot but in the very corner where we stood. I got shite from family for even patronizing the place in the first place. They really hold a grudge over that place getting developed.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 11:31 am to
quote:

To really make it fun, I went with four other people and I was paying for the whole group. So when our number was called, I had five people trying to get to the counter and order from one guy. And he didn't have enough room on his staging space to sit our whole order. It was a huge mess and, now that I have posted again in this thread and relived the nightmare, I am never going back.*



*Fun fact. The restaurant sits on top of an old parking lot. The exact spot where the restaurant sits was where a group of my friends and families have Mardi Gras tailgated for 30 years. The restaurant isn't just in the same parking lot but in the very corner where we stood. I got shite from family for even patronizing the place in the first place. They really hold a grudge over that place getting developed.


My first visit was a similar complete disaster....so I went back early on a Sat to try to give it another go. Things were much more peaceful...but the other visit was a semi madhouse as well. I am nuts about Roman food in general, and more than low key obsessed with various pizza styles, so I'm sure I'll be back despite the obstacles.

RE: development on "sacred" ground, I feel the same way about certain parts of the LSU campus...what in the hell is a new building doing in my favorite old spots?
Posted by NimbleCat
Member since Jan 2007
8802 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 12:19 pm to
quote:

Anyone tried the new Bonci Pizza in nola?


I think you will be underwhelmed by the entire experience.

The pay by the pound thing is interesting and allows you to order how much you want. My group ordered nearly a "row" of pizza from every pan.

I was unable to understand the inconsistency with each pizza's crust. Are they all supposed to be completely different in thickness? Some were almost paper thin others were pan pizza thick.

It wasn't crowded when we went, but I can see that the set up lends itself to chaos when really busy.

Given the variety of selections, you should find a pizza you like.
Spicy Shrimp and sausage was a favorite.
Anchovy was my favorite.
Chicken Parm was meh.
The meat one (Italian cured meats?) was a favorite. This one was close to a pepperoni pizza.
Margherita was meh. I think there was one sprig of basil on 4 slices.

Drinks were in a glass cooler, you pick them out. Canned Beer, Soft Drinks, Canned Wine. There is a self serve water fountain for everyone also.

Lots of choices, bread / dough was interesting and tasted good on some slices and less than good on others. For $9-14 a pound, I don't see the hype lasting long. Everyone at our table thought it was good, but not (OMG Where Has This Been All My Life!!!!) Good. I prefer NY style or Neapolitan pizza to this Roman style offering.
For the people I went with, we would rather go somewhere else for Pizza in New Orleans.






Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 12:42 pm to
quote:

Margherita was meh. I think there was one sprig of basil on 4 slices.


I did notice that the counter staff didn't quite seem to grasp that they should choose the cutting spot a bit more carefully, rather than obliterating the toppings with a carelessly chosen slicing spot. Cut to the left or right of a clump of toppings, rather than right thru the middle so that your half hunk of ricotta falls off.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115394 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

RE: it being "just like Rome"....yeah, it is, kinda. But the Rome location is in semi-boring Prati/behind the Vatican....it serves mostly tourists & wandering locals, not a business-district lunch crowd expecting a quick turnaround time from a restaurant with already-prepared pizza.


Yeah, agree here. Prati is a pretty quiet neighborhood and you really kind of have to go out of your way to go there. I was shocked by how small it was for such a famous place. It was confusing as well at first but it wasn't pack and Romans embrace chaos so it isn't a big deal.

They really can't do it the same here.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:45 pm to
quote:

It was confusing as well at first but it wasn't pack and Romans embrace chaos so it isn't a big deal.

They really can't do it the same here.

Similar semi chaos prevails at Roscioli bakery on the weekends, with minimal seating and crazy hordes of tourists who would never find Pizzarium. But the pizza bianca stuffed with porchetta makes any inconvenience so...worth...it. Last time I was there, someone forgot our order in the warming oven & all my choices were burned to a crisp! Much laughter and ribbing between the kitchen guys, esp since we were jammed into a table right up against the kitchen/ovens. They gave us a pile of the little two-bite pizzette to make up for the do-over.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56196 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 5:12 pm to
quote:

Half of the ppl in line don't understand the process, don't remember to order a drink along with the pizza (as there is no list of what's on offer, and the drinks case is not adjacent to the pizza case), don't understand that the receipt has a different number than their initial number.....and the mass of ppl waiting to be served means you don't know what kinds of pizza are on offer until you push your way to the front of the herd...so service slows down while ppl unfamiliar with the combinations/ingredients try to make up their minds.
Yeah, I would be frozen with fear and just turn around.
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