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re: Ask Chef Rob anything i might answer.

Posted on 1/9/19 at 6:53 am to
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 6:53 am to
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I feel like the logical next step is for both of them to reveal their brisket recipe’s, let us loyalists compare them independently and then we can name which one is


I have a better idea: A F&D board cook off between the 2. Find a time and place to have these two go head to head and only F&D posters vote for BBQ supremacy.
Posted by iAmBatman
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Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 7:21 am to
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Rob has the skins on the wall


You mean a couple of failed businesses and a few cashed unemployment checks?
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 8:14 am to
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You mean a couple of failed businesses and a few cashed unemployment checks?

We’re not talking about his business knowledge or his social media skills. The dude is great BBQ guy, and that’s not up for debate. And it’s not some fake honey covered competition crap, the competition guys will admit that’s not real bbq. Rob has been proven to make incredible BBQ, and that’s the skins on the wall
Posted by MeridianDog
Home on the range
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 8:54 am to
Gris, this has been interesting hasn't it!

From what I read, Rob says that Arabi is using his recipes and Arabi really didn't deny using them. He seems to say they were there when he came to the place and he chose to use them. What I think Arabi said is that over time, he will convert the recipes to his "better" way. To me that says he will tweak things when he gets his feet on the ground, since he evidently has never run a production BBQ kitchen. Not saying he doesn't produce good stuff, only that he has beginner level production kitchen experience.


What I read is that Arabi has participated in several/many BBQ competitions and has trophies, showing competency in those competitions. In fact he has won a few. Those are tough events and he is to be admired for winning and placing in them. I also know they have very little to do with successful daily BBQ operation, because they are exhibition BBQ cooking and not concerned with making a profit, only with cooking to comply with a judging standard that varies from competition to competition.

From what he says, Rob has little experience in BBQ competition, but a history and reputation of producing good BBQ in commercial operations. Various "food critics" have written praise directed toward him in print.

Rob accused Arabi of "coming by and trying to get him/Rob to share his secrets". All cooks do that, so I bet Arabi did what Rob accuses him of doing. IMO, if you aren't willing to share, don't invite another cook into your kitchen.

For whatever reasons, Rob has been around when several BBQ establishments went under. I think all of the failed BBQ establishments have been in NO, which is a tough town for any start up restaurant of any type to show long term success so I would cut him some slack for working at a place that goes under. In my experience, even great BBQ places come and go all the time, because most are "mom & pop" level businesses. What are the statistics for success in any restaurant start-up? 50% fail within the first few years? I think that is close. As far as difficulty with employees sticking around -if you are not the owner/operator/chef at a BBQ joint, you go through quite a few employees over time. That is just the way restaurants operate. I'll cut Rob some slack there.

Now here comes what is strictly my opinion, based on observation and following this enjoyable string of posts. Both of these guys have huge "Mt. Rushmore" level egos.

Rob has involved himself in multiple social media meltdowns in the past and continues to demonstrate that problem even here.

Arabi spent days and days here in the past, "teaching FDB folks the right way to do BBQ". Why was it right? Because it was the way he did it.

I would eat either guy's BBQ. If they were going head to head, it would be interesting. My suspicion is that they cook styles that are similar. My suspicion is that both will find themselves (again in the future) at BBQ joints that fail. That is just how that business operates.

Oh, In my opinion, and based on my really big ego, I am a pretty good BBQ cook. My specialty is whatever grade and animal is on sale at Piggly Wiggly. The fact is, I am not a Chef, never have been and never will be. I have observed competition cooking (by walking by a tent where it was being done and watching for 45 seconds, then smiling and nodding when someone noticed me). This has been fun (not as good as the famous chili string and not as good as several of the jambalaya and gumbo fights).

As a self appointed referee, I score both fighters as having won points but I declare "No winner". Maybe we can see a rematch.


Posted by ShootingsBricks4Life
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 8:55 am to
I'm confused about the pits rob used at central city bbq. Is the pit that is there now the same one that James is using?
Posted by MeridianDog
Home on the range
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:01 am to
Same pit? I bet they are. Those things are expensive and if they work, they last for years. Not sure why any BBQ place would change out a working pit. You cook on a pit a few times, learn how to use it and then modify your style (slightly) to how the pit cooks.
This post was edited on 1/9/19 at 9:02 am
Posted by ShootingsBricks4Life
Member since May 2017
2601 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:02 am to
Agreed. Just wondering why he was making fun of a pit that he used as well. I guess that's why he said "It's not the car, it's the driver."
Posted by MeridianDog
Home on the range
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:05 am to
I think both guys were throwing "Yo Mommas" back and forth. Had they been in the same room, one or both would have gotten physically hurt. Glad that didn't happen.


It's funny, the brisket guy in Austin, TX has been on PBS here. He has maybe 3 pits at his place, and all three are slightly different, evidently evolutions, trying to find the best pit for brisket. If he finds that best pit, I doubt he gets rid of evolution 1-3 because they are really big and no doubt were expensive to build.
This post was edited on 1/9/19 at 9:09 am
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
101248 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:07 am to
I am in a meeting and can't chit chat but here is some pics of the pits and food when they opened. Also, had a nice chat with James this morning via FB. Look forward to some changes out there.

LINK
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
30178 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:10 am to
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asked for advice on cooking with my electric smoker and he told me to sell it and get a real smoker. I dont know many people who call themselves a chef who would do that.


That’s what got me riled up.
We get it that it’s not the professional way to do it.
Also get that sitting around watching it is fun for some people. I could dig it in the right circumstances.
But usually I’d rather go kayaking, hiking or something else while the food cooks.
I’m not a chef. Not even a good cook really. I don’t care that I’m not.
“To each his own” means something different to him than most people obviously.

The guy is not a chef. He cooks BBQ. From what I understand, he does it very well.

He’s also a condescending attention whore.
Posted by MeridianDog
Home on the range
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:13 am to
Interesting reads t00f. Here in the Land Mass, we exist in the wasteland between food meccas.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288145 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:15 am to
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Also, had a nice chat with James this morning via FB.


Does he know you are chef robs corner man?
Posted by MeridianDog
Home on the range
Member since Nov 2010
14539 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:18 am to
"Not a Chef"

Some would tell you the definition of "Chef" is anyone who runs a production kitchen with employees reporting to them.

Example - in Highschool I ran the grill at T-Willie's Frostop 3-4 nights a week. There were three of us some nights. (only me, more nights than not). I guess I was a chef, if that definition stands.

However, please don't call me Chef. "Your majesty" will work just fine.


Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15751 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:23 am to
I may have to stop at CCBBQ tonight. I have not been yet.
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
17968 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:30 am to
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It's funny, the brisket guy in Austin, TX has been on PBS here. He has maybe 3 pits at his place, and all three are slightly different, evidently evolutions, trying to find the best pit for brisket. If he finds that best pit, I doubt he gets rid of evolution 1-3 because they are really big and no doubt were expensive to build.


Franklin shows his pits and shows you how he makes his own on his tv series. I saw the episode on Amazon Prime. Not sure if it is the same PBS series or not. It is certainly worth a watch and pretty neat.
Posted by Fourteen28
Member since Aug 2018
1156 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:33 am to
What's funny is Rob completely bailed on his own thread once Arabi showed up and laid some truth bombs.

Robs says he had to go to work, but I argue he doesn't have a job.
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
101248 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:35 am to
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Does he know you are chef robs corner man?


Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288145 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:43 am to
What did rob do to you? You are taking this harder than kosmo kramer
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
46365 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:43 am to
just comment on the "manda's boudin" issue...in a commercial setting, manda's is a fine boudin and you could do a hell of a lot worse. it has a good liver-y flavor and a good casing for the pit

i see no reason not to use it when selling by the portion. the D&D sausage is the same way...

in a commercial kitchen you have to balance the needs of the front and the back of the house. personally, if i were running a restaurant (from the front, not the kitchen) i would make the smoked sausage in-house and not have boudin on the menu at all
Posted by busbeepbeep
When will then be now?
Member since Jan 2004
19467 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 10:07 am to
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As a self appointed referee, I score both fighters as having won points but I declare "No winner". Maybe we can see a rematch.

great summary
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