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re: Am I weird for not wanting to eat non-stunned halal meat?

Posted on 1/24/23 at 12:57 pm to
Posted by The Top G
Member since Jan 2023
139 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 12:57 pm to
I guess I can understand your trepidation, but it's kind of weird this is where you draw the line.

Factory farming is absolutely disgusting and way, way worse than cutting a jugular. Those animals are raised in horrible conditions, pumped full of steroids and unnatural foods for their diet and then killed.

I eat factory farmed meat, wild game I kill myself, and halal meat. Out of the three, the most unethical of those is the factory farmed meat.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
36392 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 12:57 pm to
Just don't go if it bothers you. I wouldn't ask though for stunned meat or non-halal meat as like someone said, it's a little insulting to their culture. You're too good for their barbaric practices. Or, go and just order something vegan.

Posted by CAPEX
Member since Dec 2022
918 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 1:19 pm to
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Do you know for sure that it is non stunned? Most Halal meat produced in the United States and UK is stunned first.


Yeah, I read that 84% of halal is stunned - it's the other 16% that I don't want to support.

Got no issue if it's stunned first. I'm going to ring and ask if it's stunned without being offensive about it.
This post was edited on 1/24/23 at 1:20 pm
Posted by CAPEX
Member since Dec 2022
918 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 1:26 pm to
The air hammer is great.

It's clean and the animal doesn't struggle.

There would be no problem at all if it was air hammer.

The meat I buy from the store is air hammer.
Posted by dtett
Jiggacity
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 1:28 pm to
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Gymkhana


RIP Ken Block.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
29990 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 1:44 pm to
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Am I weird


You're weird for having yet ANOTHER alter Oweo.
Posted by BigDropper
Member since Jul 2009
8833 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 2:15 pm to
Everything you have said in this thread is what is wrong with amateur diners.

Stop being a sniveling, self-centered, over-dramatic, virtue-signaling, attention-whore and either shite, or get off the pot.

Do you really think your one night of indulgence is going to affect future demand for halal meat when there are over 1.9 BILLION Muslims is the world?

This ridiculous on so many levels.

Here's your attention.
Posted by CAPEX
Member since Dec 2022
918 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 2:44 pm to
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Do you really think your one night of indulgence is going to affect future demand for halal meat when there are over 1.9 BILLION Muslims is the world?


No, of course it won't.

I'm just saying, my conscience wouldn't be okay with it.

quote:

Here's your attention.


Look man, I don't know what's bothering you. I was just asking whether it would be okay to ask for a different meat variety.

I'm not trying to offend anyone or attract attention.




Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 2:51 pm to
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I'm not trying to offend anyone or attract attention.


Sure Chris.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
58274 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 2:52 pm to
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I was just asking whether it would be okay to ask for a different meat variety.


No. Not because of your concerns over the meat, but because of the pain in the arse you become when you treat fine dining like Burger King. You don't get to "have it your way". Order the food how the chef intends for it to be served. i have a family member that about 75% of the time asks the server, "instead of this, could you do this?"

FWIW, i get your trying to not come off as one of those people. So when i say, "when you treat fine dining like Burger King" i mean the royal "you".
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 2:54 pm to
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rder the food how the chef intends for it to be served.


OP trying to end up in this guy's restaurant

Posted by CAPEX
Member since Dec 2022
918 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 2:56 pm to
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No. Not because of your concerns over the meat, but because of the pain in the arse you become when you treat fine dining like Burger King. You don't get to "have it your way". Order the food how the chef intends for it to be served. i have a family member that about 75% of the time asks the server, "instead of this, could you do this?"



Fair enough.

Mea culpa.

Someone said to order the prawns so that's what I'm going to do which doesn't offend anyone and will be how the chef intended to serve it.

Situation is resolved.
This post was edited on 1/24/23 at 2:57 pm
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
18357 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:13 pm to
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Someone said to order the prawns so that's what I'm going to do which doesn't offend anyone and will be how the chef intended to serve it


So prawns don't feel pain? They're suffocated you know. Can't breath and put on ice. Probably an agonizing demise.

Since when do Muslims eat shellfish anyway?
This post was edited on 1/24/23 at 3:13 pm
Posted by Intelligent
Member since Jun 2017
675 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:16 pm to
To answer your question, yes you're weird also a dumbass.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79690 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:29 pm to
You probably shouldn't watch any videos on the food chain in this country.

You will end up vegan or just starve.


Stunning or not stunning is far from the top issue with animal treatment when it comes to food.


Wait until you find out about how crawfish are cooked.
This post was edited on 1/24/23 at 3:30 pm
Posted by CAPEX
Member since Dec 2022
918 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:33 pm to
All sea food is considered halal according to the literature (one website says). Another says something different.

I'm in the UK at the moment where there's two licensing authorities that determine whether something is halal - one says that an animal can be stunned (Halal Food Authority) and one says that an animal cannot be stunned (Halal Monitoring Committee). But both are not very clear on whether prawns are halal.

Upon further googling, there are 3 schools of Islam that say prawns can be considered halal and one school that says that prawns are not halal.

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So prawns don't feel pain? They're suffocated you know. Can't breath and put on ice. Probably an agonizing demise.


They have a rudimentary nervous system from what I've read. I'm not too bothered by the way prawns are killed.
This post was edited on 1/24/23 at 3:34 pm
Posted by CAPEX
Member since Dec 2022
918 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:36 pm to
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You probably shouldn't watch any videos on the food chain in this country.


I've been watching a ton of them since Youtube has started recommending them to me.

I'm not too bothered by factory farms but I try and source my meat from local farms.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79690 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:37 pm to
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I'm not too bothered by factory farms but I try and source my meat from local farms.


Are you under the impression small farms stun?
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
18357 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:38 pm to
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I'm in the UK at the moment where there's two licensing authorities that determine whether something is halal - one says that an animal can be stunned (Halal Food Authority) and one says that an animal cannot be stunned (Halal Monitoring Committee). But both are not very clear on whether prawns are halal.


For Alah's sake can they not get their shite straight??

Posted by CAPEX
Member since Dec 2022
918 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:39 pm to
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Are you under the impression small farms stun?


They legally have to where I am at the moment.

Everything is monitored by video and there are regular random checks.

The only exception is for religious slaughter (which people were really annoyed about at the time).

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