- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Am I weird for not wanting to eat non-stunned halal meat?
Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:43 pm to CAPEX
Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:43 pm to CAPEX
Ah, well seems like you are well rooted in this problem you invented for yourself.
Just order a salad. Stay away from any dressings with dairy though. Those cows live horrible lives.
Just order a salad. Stay away from any dressings with dairy though. Those cows live horrible lives.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:49 pm to fightin tigers
I've got no issue with any of it except for the killing method.
Call it psychological etc.
Call it psychological etc.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:56 pm to CAPEX
Well, you justified the manner of killing deer and crustaceans pretty easily even though they are as bad or worse. Maybe compartmentalize halal and pretend it is kosher.
Chickens have particularly brutal deaths too.
Chickens have particularly brutal deaths too.
This post was edited on 1/24/23 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 1/24/23 at 5:47 pm to CAPEX
I've just read through a somewhat interesting thread and what I've come to is you're not a man of conviction.
There are many phases of cruelty in the animal eating business and it sounds like you want to be rid of the one that makes you go ewwww the most. You should just stop eating mammalian flesh all together.
You could bludgeon a cow to death with a meat mallet and I wouldn't give a shite and you know what, neither would the cow. But I would prefer to not eat the cow that was laying behind another cow and got shite on by said cow. I saw that once you know and it was gross.
Next time I'm in a restaurant I'll ask if the cow I'm eating was shite on by the cow standing above it.
But I'll tell ya though. I learned something watching that cow getting shite on. Those fricking animals are dumb. In fact, I doubt they're much more intelligent than your garden variety domestic turkey.
As a matter of fact, someone actually told me once that cows are so fricking stupid, that they've been known to drown themselves in a rainstorm. Too fricking dumb to actually turn around and get the rain out of their faces. Now I don't know if that's true or not but I do know these animals aren't bred for intelligence. In fact, just the opposite.
So really when it comes to the manner of death, should I give a cow any more thought than catching a fish and letting it flop around in my cooler until it dies? Because I don't give a single shite about that fish or how it meets it's end either.
But if I were to care how that cow dies. What's wrong with exsanguination? It's painless and the animal is completely unaware of what's happening to itself. In fact, it has no sense of self at all.
We should all be so fortunate to go out so peacefully. Why would you deny such a peaceful death to a cow?
There are many phases of cruelty in the animal eating business and it sounds like you want to be rid of the one that makes you go ewwww the most. You should just stop eating mammalian flesh all together.
You could bludgeon a cow to death with a meat mallet and I wouldn't give a shite and you know what, neither would the cow. But I would prefer to not eat the cow that was laying behind another cow and got shite on by said cow. I saw that once you know and it was gross.
Next time I'm in a restaurant I'll ask if the cow I'm eating was shite on by the cow standing above it.
But I'll tell ya though. I learned something watching that cow getting shite on. Those fricking animals are dumb. In fact, I doubt they're much more intelligent than your garden variety domestic turkey.
As a matter of fact, someone actually told me once that cows are so fricking stupid, that they've been known to drown themselves in a rainstorm. Too fricking dumb to actually turn around and get the rain out of their faces. Now I don't know if that's true or not but I do know these animals aren't bred for intelligence. In fact, just the opposite.
So really when it comes to the manner of death, should I give a cow any more thought than catching a fish and letting it flop around in my cooler until it dies? Because I don't give a single shite about that fish or how it meets it's end either.
But if I were to care how that cow dies. What's wrong with exsanguination? It's painless and the animal is completely unaware of what's happening to itself. In fact, it has no sense of self at all.
We should all be so fortunate to go out so peacefully. Why would you deny such a peaceful death to a cow?
This post was edited on 1/24/23 at 5:49 pm
Posted on 1/24/23 at 6:59 pm to Pandy Fackler
quote:
There are many phases of cruelty in the animal eating business and it sounds like you want to be rid of the one that makes you go ewwww the most. You should just stop eating mammalian flesh all together.
I would like to get rid of all of them but it's not practical or possible for me to do so. However, it is relatively simple for me to avoid eating halal meat.
And there are alternative ways of killing (stunning + kill) that are just as cost-effective and more humane according to several studies I've seen.
As much as I would like to get rid of factory farming, that's not going to happen. Just because there are other points of cruelty within the supply chain, that doesn't mean I can't advocate for one point of cruelty to be removed. It doesn't mean I don't care about the other cruelty elements, it's just not practical to do. Furthermore, mandating stunning is required in many European countries + UK (except for religious slaughter so it would be a fairly easy loophole to fix) so it doesn't seem like a difficult problem to fix compared with factory farming etc. which is necessary to deliver cheaper meat.
quote:
What's wrong with exsanguination? It's painless and the animal is completely unaware of what's happening to itself. In fact, it has no sense of self at all.
Exsanguination didn't look peaceful in any of the videos to me. The animals seemed to be aware of what was going on.
quote:
We should all be so fortunate to go out so peacefully. Why would you deny such a peaceful death to a cow?
Peaceful is being stunned + killed. I want a peaceful death for my meat which is why I don't like halal.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 7:50 pm to CAPEX
quote:
I want a peaceful death for my meat
Title of your sex tape
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:22 pm to CAPEX
You sound fricking insufferable 
Posted on 1/25/23 at 1:44 pm to LSU-MNCBABY
quote:
I want a peaceful death for my meat
quote:
Title of your sex tape
Posted on 1/25/23 at 1:47 pm to CAPEX
Getting away from all your drama to answer the question.
Yes, you are really fricking weird !!
Yes, you are really fricking weird !!
Posted on 1/25/23 at 4:33 pm to Epic Cajun
quote:
You sound fricking insufferable
I get to be insufferable when I'm paying $230 for my meal.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 4:47 pm to CAPEX
quote:
I get to be insufferable when I'm paying $230 for my meal
You have a point. Here's your upvote.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 4:53 pm to Pandy Fackler
Jesus Christ. You're worried about how the animal is killed, but you don't worry about how it lives its damned life? The way the animal goes out is the least of its worries compared to the hellhole of factory-raised meat.
Weird line to draw in the sand, Clark. Get over yourself (and I eat hardly any meat, for this reason). That being said, if I went to eat somewhere and they slaughtered the damned animal in front of me, I would eat the freaking food out of respect for their culture (unless I was truly a vegan and opposed to any killing of animals). Your ethics are a little wonky, if you eat "regular" meat but won't eat this meat.
Weird line to draw in the sand, Clark. Get over yourself (and I eat hardly any meat, for this reason). That being said, if I went to eat somewhere and they slaughtered the damned animal in front of me, I would eat the freaking food out of respect for their culture (unless I was truly a vegan and opposed to any killing of animals). Your ethics are a little wonky, if you eat "regular" meat but won't eat this meat.
This post was edited on 1/25/23 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 1/25/23 at 5:02 pm to CAPEX
quote:
I get to be insufferable when I'm paying $230 for my meal.
$230 for Indian food.
Honestly, that price level of a restaurant that is doing well generally wouldn't tolerate an insufferable customer.
Popular
Back to top

1







