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re: ABI buys Karbach
Posted on 11/4/16 at 9:01 am to kennypowers816
Posted on 11/4/16 at 9:01 am to kennypowers816
I just saw this this morning, a friend of mine trolled the news. He went full hillbilly when he got interviewed outside Hay Merchant. This made my Friday.
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Posted on 11/4/16 at 9:13 am to LoneStarTiger
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what if they started up solely for the purpose of selling it one day and cashing out?
I'd say more power to them. I don't fault people for wanting to make money and be financially secure. Now whether or not those type of breweries produce good beer... i tend to think if you are in it solely for the money, that your motivation to make anything other than "serviceable" beer is very low. I could be wrong, but from what i've seen, the breweries that make outstanding beer, really care about the beer they are making.
It's a balance, you have to care about your beer, but you also have to keep the lights on in the place. It is possible to do both. But many suffer quality or innovation for the bottom line.
Now a new brewery, i don't fault them if they are making some "boring" beer that sells to the masses to keep their doors open and allows them to brew really good beer. Look at Parish, canebreak is still their #1 seller, and has allowed them to brew other incredible beers.
Posted on 11/4/16 at 9:29 am to BugAC
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I'd say more power to them. I don't fault people for wanting to make money and be financially secure.
well, that's one opinion.
Personally, I think it's shitty to sell out to a company that openly mocks craft beer, spends millions lobbying against it, makes fake "craft beer" brands to take up shelf space, and finally figured "if you can't beat them, buy them"
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Posted on 11/4/16 at 9:50 am to LoneStarTiger
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Personally, I think it's shitty to sell out to a company that openly mocks craft beer, spends millions lobbying against it, makes fake "craft beer" brands to take up shelf space, and finally figured "if you can't beat them, but them"
I don't condone big beers actions at all. Just saying i can't condemn a brewery for selling out.
Do we know what the buy out entailed? Was it a full buy out? Part ownership? etc...
You nor I know the details or the financial situation the Karbach owners were in. Maybe they were deeply in debt. Maybe this is only a partial buy out that will infuse them with some revenue at the cost of a % of the company. Maybe it's what most feared and its simply an acquisition to later be liquidated to reduce competition with big beer. No one knows. Personally, i can't bring myself to condemn the people at Karbach for doing what they are doing. It's business, not personal.
Posted on 11/4/16 at 10:03 am to BugAC
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You nor I know the details or the financial situation the Karbach owners were in.
And Maybe they just wanted to make a boatload of money?
Like I said when Terrapin "sold out" I don't like it, but I understand, and good for them.
Posted on 11/4/16 at 10:05 am to BugAC
Agree.
Economic freedom should still be a primary principle in this country. If the Karbach owners are ready to cash out on their work and investments, I'm definitely not going to fault them for that.
Continuing to buy their beer is a different conversation, though, which to be honest, I haven't been doing much of anyway.
Economic freedom should still be a primary principle in this country. If the Karbach owners are ready to cash out on their work and investments, I'm definitely not going to fault them for that.
Continuing to buy their beer is a different conversation, though, which to be honest, I haven't been doing much of anyway.
Posted on 11/4/16 at 10:06 am to ragincajun03
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Continuing to buy their beer is a different conversation
it is? hell, I thought that was the whole conversation. That's the only part we can control, as consumers.
Posted on 11/4/16 at 10:10 am to LoneStarTiger
No, it can be different.
Some people are mad at the owners. I'm not. They chose to reap more benefits from their hard work. Good for them.
At the same time, though, if I'm looking for a nice pale ale and I've got Weekend Warrior or another comparable local option, well it won't be WW anymore. I'll choose the local guy.
I'll still buy regular BBH.
Some people are mad at the owners. I'm not. They chose to reap more benefits from their hard work. Good for them.
At the same time, though, if I'm looking for a nice pale ale and I've got Weekend Warrior or another comparable local option, well it won't be WW anymore. I'll choose the local guy.
I'll still buy regular BBH.
Posted on 11/4/16 at 10:13 am to ragincajun03
Oh, well I agree with you there. I'm not mad at them, but I won't support them by buying any more of their beer either, including BBH.
Posted on 11/4/16 at 10:18 am to LoneStarTiger
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spends millions lobbying against it,
Thats your local distributors more than BMC (Beer Industry League in Louisiana).
This year alone the National Beer Wholesalers lobby has given $4.5 million in campaign contributions and spent $1.5 million on lobbying.
People always ask why LA craft beer is 5-10 years behind other states, this is why.
Beer wholesalers and distributors control the legislature in this state when it comes to laws surrounding alcohol distribution. They will simply outspend the craft brewers and win every time.
Posted on 11/4/16 at 10:24 am to LSUGrad00
Shilling Distribution is always sponsoring stuff for politicians around Acadiana.
Posted on 11/4/16 at 10:45 am to LSUGrad00
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This year alone the National Beer Wholesalers lobby has given $4.5 million in campaign contributions and spent $1.5 million on lobbying.
The owner of Sliver Eagle in Houston is a massive Texas GOP donor.
Posted on 11/4/16 at 11:37 am to steakbombLSU
This better not lead to some cross contamination or adverse effects in any way to the flavor profile of Bud Light.
Posted on 11/4/16 at 11:43 am to LSUballs
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This better not lead to some cross contamination or adverse effects in any way to the flavor profile of Bud Light.
Posted on 11/4/16 at 1:52 pm to LSUballs
I hear Bud Light will start to get cat pissy.
Posted on 11/4/16 at 5:08 pm to LSUGrad00
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Beer wholesalers and distributors control the legislature in this state when it comes to laws surrounding alcohol distribution. They will simply outspend the craft brewers and win every time.
I hate those Tony Soprano cartel bastards. Our legislators talk about free enterprise, small business, and capitalism, but they constantly screw all those concepts and consumer choice because they are bought and paid for by the distributors.
The retailers and small brewers won't say much about it because they can't afford to piss them off.
The only good thing about our three-tier system is that the manufacturers don't also own all the bars like they are seeing in England. It's hard to find a pub over there not owned by a particular brewery; they sell only or mostly their own brands.
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