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re: MSNBC stirs the pot.

Posted on 5/16/11 at 2:57 pm to
Posted by rutiger
purgatory
Member since Jun 2007
21118 posts
Posted on 5/16/11 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

anyone can buy flood insurance through the federal flood insurance program. I don't know however if you live in the spillway area ie Butte La Rose


cant buy flood insurance in butte la rose, my wifes pawpaw has a camp there and he worked in the insurance industry for years.
Posted by vl100butch
Ridgeland, MS
Member since Sep 2005
34650 posts
Posted on 5/16/11 at 2:59 pm to
quote:

without reading this thread to know the general consensus, i'm going to agree with him. No way should we have flooded one peoples property and land to save another...regardless of the disparity in numbers.


if these people weren't in a spillway that has been in existence over 50 years, i might have some sympathy with their position....there were payments made for easements...

the other factor, if not for the Corps of Engineers, they wouldn't be there anyway, as the Mississippi would have captured the Atchafalaya and the Plaquemine delta would be a thing of the past.....
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38408 posts
Posted on 5/16/11 at 3:03 pm to
quote:

not to help save these towns from the next major flood.


You do realize that if not for the spillway all of these people who are complaining would not have a home right? These people would be flooded about once every three years, so they wouldnt even have these homes to abandon.
This post was edited on 5/16/11 at 3:06 pm
Posted by cigtyme
Houma, La
Member since Nov 2007
941 posts
Posted on 5/16/11 at 3:08 pm to
quote:

the other factor, if not for the Corps of Engineers, they wouldn't be there anyway, as the Mississippi would have captured the Atchafalaya and the Plaquemine delta would be a thing of the past.....


Really resent this comment. If this is your stance then no one should live anywhere along the MR. The Corp built 2100 miles of levees. In 1927 the MR was 80 miles wide at certain areas.

I know the Morganza had to be open. THe Infrastucture/40% of the population arguement alone is justifiable. People know how dirt poor some people in these areas are. If most had the money they wouldn't live in these areas more than likely. They couldn't move 50 years ago when this was palnned. Most people who could afford have moved years ago.
Posted by Crawdaddy
Slidell. The jewel of Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
18379 posts
Posted on 5/16/11 at 3:14 pm to
curious on how many people have lived there 50 plus years, 25 plus years, or just under 10 years.
Posted by vl100butch
Ridgeland, MS
Member since Sep 2005
34650 posts
Posted on 5/16/11 at 3:14 pm to
quote:

the other factor, if not for the Corps of Engineers, they wouldn't be there anyway, as the Mississippi would have captured the Atchafalaya and the Plaquemine delta would be a thing of the past.....

Really resent this comment. If this is your stance then no one should live anywhere along the MR. The Corp built 2100 miles of levees. In 1927 the MR was 80 miles wide at certain areas.

I know the Morganza had to be open. THe Infrastucture/40% of the population arguement alone is justifiable. People know how dirt poor some people in these areas are. If most had the money they wouldn't live in these areas more than likely. They couldn't move 50 years ago when this was palnned. Most people who could afford have moved years ago.


that's not what i'm saying....

i'm absolutely sick and tired of the media sensationalism...and the combination of "poor ole pitiful me" and ignorance of why the morganza is there shown by some people---

i grew up along the river in belle chasse and have a pretty good understanding of what and how the levee/spillway system is supposed to work...
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 5/16/11 at 3:20 pm to
sorry if you are to stupid to understand why its better to flood his shite than let baton rouge or new orleans flood.

states have to protect their biggest and best cities and that is what Baton rouge and New Orleans are. They are the 2 biggest population centers in this state, one is the capitol the other is the crown jewel of the state. its the way things work you do all you can to protect your money makers and population centers. It sucks for those in small towns that end up flooded but its what happens.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164127 posts
Posted on 5/16/11 at 3:23 pm to
When MSNBC finds out a lot of these poor people are white and didn't vote for Obama they won't care as much.
Posted by cigtyme
Houma, La
Member since Nov 2007
941 posts
Posted on 5/16/11 at 3:25 pm to
Sorry HeartbreakTiger, thought it was aimed at me LOL. I was just bringing up the whole move cause you live in a spillway argument. I do not live in a spillway, but i am supposed to have 0-5 feet of water in 194 hours. I have never recieved a "Hey You live in A SPILLWAY letter". Neither have i recieved an easement check. I am just getting tired of hearing the don't live in a spill way argument.
This post was edited on 5/16/11 at 3:32 pm
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 5/16/11 at 3:28 pm to
You can ALWAYS purchase flood insurance through the feds...
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 5/16/11 at 3:29 pm to
who did it say my reply was to? considering it was to cleetus then clearly it wasn't you i was talking to.

Posted by cigtyme
Houma, La
Member since Nov 2007
941 posts
Posted on 5/16/11 at 3:29 pm to
The MR has gone from Beaumont Tx all the way to The present Mouth. Are we supposed to say:"Why did you guys build BR and NO knowing the MR would eventually change course again. The devils advocate argument to all of this is why build any city anywhere near the MR cause it has changed courses so many times and flooded out so many times.
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
14450 posts
Posted on 5/16/11 at 3:38 pm to
What are these eaement payments everyone speaks of?? Is this the magical "check is in the Mail" things. If my house was flooded because of this they better sure as find it instead of one of these you live on a floodplan letters. Sure BR and NO maybe saved because of this but to say someone is worth more because they live in a city is wrong and these people should be compensated for their sacrifice if needbe. No not like these Welfare leechs but at least help them relocate because these people aren't like some of the city scum that live off the government. These are hard working people for the most part
Posted by ApeCo80
Watson,LA
Member since Mar 2011
1316 posts
Posted on 5/16/11 at 3:38 pm to
So, MSNBC hates Obama.
Posted by kjacksonp
Mobile, AL
Member since Dec 2006
1066 posts
Posted on 5/16/11 at 3:40 pm to
quote:

"So I guess it's all about saving the rich and burying the poor?" he asked.


So they quoted how someone feels. They also printed a reminder in the article that those folks know the risk:

"The Morganza flooding is more controlled, however, and residents are warned each year that the spillway could be opened."

Posted by Boh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
12357 posts
Posted on 5/16/11 at 3:40 pm to
quote:

No not like these Welfare leechs but at least help them relocate because these people aren't like some of the city scum that live off the government. These are hard working people for the most part

I agree completely and it sucks.

But I don't think that they are saving the people in BR/NOLA just "because they live in a city". Government and industry in the state would for the most part be gone if BR/NOLA are seriously flooded. The fact is, in the big picture, everything from BR/NOLA is more important to the state and collectively a hell of a lot more lives would be impacted
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 5/16/11 at 3:41 pm to
well to the state Baton Rouge and New Orleans is worth more. Its the way it is. Sure the cities have some leeches in them but they also have plenty of big business so they are going to win out. I do agree though the feds should hand out some checks since they did flood the area
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 5/16/11 at 3:44 pm to
exactly its not so much that the person in baton rouge or new orleans no matter what they contribute is better than those got flooded its just that the br/nola area is more important to the state and country.

Its really nothing personal or about the people its a business move.

of course it doesn't hurt br/nola to be the population center of the state
This post was edited on 5/16/11 at 3:45 pm
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 5/16/11 at 3:44 pm to
Observation: almost all of them live in trailers, they could just pull them away.
Posted by Kajungee
South ,Section 6 Row N
Member since Mar 2004
17033 posts
Posted on 5/16/11 at 3:52 pm to
Stephensville road aint trailers.
And Stephensville road houses were not there in 73.





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