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Posted on 5/4/11 at 2:32 pm to
Posted by bpinson
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Posted on 5/4/11 at 2:32 pm to
Based on what I can tell, the link to the town meeting in Vidalia was pretty good info. I would think the levees today are completely different from 1927. We really do not know what to expect all the COE has to go is scientific theory. I have the believe they have a very good idea of what is going to happen, but then again if they are wrong or if something happens they are not taking into consideration, then well. Overall I have to trust the COE. Good luck guys.
Posted by tetu
Ascension Parish
Member since Jan 2011
12269 posts
Posted on 5/4/11 at 2:33 pm to
quote:

so if my math is right .. the river in BR is going to come within 6 inches of lapping over the levee downtown ..


And does this assume that it is flat and there is no movement? Movement in the water would be constantly throwing water up and over the levee.
Posted by TigerNAtux
Louisiana
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Posted on 5/4/11 at 2:34 pm to
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 5/4/11 at 2:34 pm to
How much opening Morganza will lower the river downtown?
Posted by just me
Front of the Class: Schooling You
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 5/4/11 at 2:36 pm to
Raggie Poo - Help me out.

Will property just over the Port Allen levees be okay?

Or is it going to be flushed away?
Posted by Choirboy
On your property
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 5/4/11 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

Will property just over the Port Allen levees


Just over the river side or on the town side?
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 5/4/11 at 2:43 pm to
Opening the spillway and Morganza will help BR, but Natchez and others are still SOL.
Posted by missloutiger
Baton Rouge
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1133 posts
Posted on 5/4/11 at 2:45 pm to
Natchez is going to ve fine podnuh
Posted by just me
Front of the Class: Schooling You
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Posted on 5/4/11 at 2:45 pm to
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Just over the river side or on the town side?
River side would probably fall into the category of "not good."

I'm talking about property between LA 1 and Jefferson Avenue and property between Jefferson Avenue and the levee.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
49071 posts
Posted on 5/4/11 at 2:48 pm to
quote:

Natchez is going to ve fine podnuh


Everyone keeps listing Natchez but we know they mean the Vidalia side. If the MS river ever floods Natchez you may as well not try to run and just hug your family cuz worlds gonna end.
That said, still sucks for the area b/c everyone in Natchez has friends, family, property, businesses over there.
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 5/4/11 at 2:50 pm to
^This is what I ment. Natchez is safe, but it's easier for most people to locate on a map then Vidalia(have some pretty hot chicks there).
Posted by tetu
Ascension Parish
Member since Jan 2011
12269 posts
Posted on 5/4/11 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

I would think the levees today are completely different from 1927. We really do not know what to expect all the COE has to go is scientific theory. I have the believe they have a very good idea of what is going to happen, but then again if they are wrong or if something happens they are not taking into consideration, then well. Overall I have to trust the COE. Good luck guys.


Yeah we do have to trust them, what other option is there? There was a link posted a thousand pages back with an interview of the author of Rising Tide. It kind of worries me, but I'm still not sure if I fully understand how it compares 1927 levees with 2011 levees. If the current day levees were built tighter than the few they had in '27 then it would take less volume (and time) to reach a certain hieght today than it did in '27.


quote:

John Barry (JB): Well, there was a flood in 1850 and, to give you a sense of comparison, a levee a
few miles upriver from New Orleans was 1.8 feet high. By 1922, the same levee, to hold a lesser
flood, had to be 20 feet high. In Morganza, Louisiana, there was a levee that held the flood of 1850
seven-and-half feet high. In 1922, again, a lesser flood, the same levee had to be 38 feet high. And
the same increase in the levee heights was true up and down the river. Obviously, if a river can't
spread out, it's going to rise up. That's exactly what it did and that, of course, completely
contradicted the levees-only theory in policy, but the Corps of Engineers was not listening.


It may not be relevant since we can at least compare river stages from '73 to today.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87394 posts
Posted on 5/4/11 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

If the MS river ever floods Natchez
It wil extend past Saline and Catahoula to the bluff at HWY 115
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 5/4/11 at 2:53 pm to
Uh oh.....
Posted by geauxlsu09
The 318
Member since Oct 2009
3369 posts
Posted on 5/4/11 at 2:54 pm to
Will this effect catahoula lake at all?

Eta. The bluff is like 8 miles from my house
This post was edited on 5/4/11 at 2:55 pm
Posted by Kajungee
South ,Section 6 Row N
Member since Mar 2004
17033 posts
Posted on 5/4/11 at 2:54 pm to
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just the maps i am looking at from the 1927 flood tell me this is going to be devastating for a lot of people ..



My grandparents were married and lived in the village of Raccouri, La. which was just north of Morganza at the time near where the lower control structure is now. The town was wiped out and never rebuilt. Simmsport, Morganza and Melville were also flooded
My grandma used to tell me stories that they loaded the whole town on a train and brought them all to Baton Rouge.

Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87394 posts
Posted on 5/4/11 at 2:56 pm to
quote:

Will this effect catahoula lake at all?
That question is above my head. I have seen warning for the Black, so it's not inconceivable that water could back up Little River past the control structure at Archie. I have seen it running backwards there before. I have run a bass boat from Jonesville to Flagon Creek/Bayou whatever, before too.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
49071 posts
Posted on 5/4/11 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

It wil extend past Saline and Catahoula to the bluff at HWY 115


Yea I told someone that who honestly asked me if Natchez was going to flood? Told him that Alexandria will get water from the MS before Natchez does.
Posted by geauxlsu09
The 318
Member since Oct 2009
3369 posts
Posted on 5/4/11 at 2:59 pm to
Yeah. I live in a low lying area with a large creek around 30 yards behind our house that floods heavily behind us when catahoula is up or we have heavy rain.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
49071 posts
Posted on 5/4/11 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

This is what I ment. Natchez is safe, but it's easier for most people to locate on a map then Vidalia(have some pretty hot chicks there).


TRUTH. On many a bustling Saturday night on Main street in Natchez, you will meet fine young ladies from Louisiana as far as Jonesville and Sicily Island.
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