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re: W......T........F, Boo????? Yes, this needs it's own thread
Posted on 6/28/10 at 4:25 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 6/28/10 at 4:25 pm to Lester Earl
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but my final say, is that i think i caught it in enough time, before any games started, to get that point. that is my final contention
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• Lineups may be set daily up to 5 minutes before gametime.
• Owners may set lineups and change players' positions from a list of their eligible positions.
• Only players who are on the disabled list may be placed into Injured status.
• Only players in the minor leagues may be placed into Minors status.
• Add/drops are handled by a waivers process.
• The waivers process runs on Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday and Saturday.
• Dropped players remain on waivers for at least 2 day(s).
i think this is the key. with this wording, ti appears to allow some commissioner discretion
Posted on 6/28/10 at 4:25 pm to rondo
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You're right, I will gladly pay my entry fee next year and set my lineups daily and put effort into a draft but not ask that rules be followed accordingly because that would be childish.
It's in the rules, it's not getting changed. Why not just shut up? If no one is here to argue with him then the thread dies. Do you love attention that much when someone argues with? Get up an hour earlier and GROW UP
Posted on 6/28/10 at 4:26 pm to Lester Earl
le, i feel for you my man, i do, i think that it sucks, and its happened to me before, and it blows to lose a days worth of stats
but, point is that there is a rule in place, and OTHER people are against giving it to you. i could care less as im probably not going to make the playoffs, but i cant fairly do this i dont think because at least 1/4 of the league is flat out disagreeing with it.
im fine with a vote for next year, but unless you can get everyone else to agree with it, im gonna have to say no. if i could recall changing it in the past then i would 100% do it, but i honestly can not ever recall us changing something like this.
even last year with gyno and port in tdbbl, they both said it was ok, but we still didnt change it
but, point is that there is a rule in place, and OTHER people are against giving it to you. i could care less as im probably not going to make the playoffs, but i cant fairly do this i dont think because at least 1/4 of the league is flat out disagreeing with it.
im fine with a vote for next year, but unless you can get everyone else to agree with it, im gonna have to say no. if i could recall changing it in the past then i would 100% do it, but i honestly can not ever recall us changing something like this.
even last year with gyno and port in tdbbl, they both said it was ok, but we still didnt change it
Posted on 6/28/10 at 4:29 pm to PortCityTiger24
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Les didn't have 3 days to drop someone, he had to do it AFTER lineups had locked on Saturday.
No, he had 22 hours to drop someone.
Posted on 6/28/10 at 4:30 pm to Rouge
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i think this is the key. with this wording, ti appears to allow some commissioner discretion
true
but 2 or 3 out of 16 disagree, it guess it cant be changed.
Thanks Ron, that seems fair. Even though i know we have voted in the past to allow the stats to go through on certain instances.
Posted on 6/28/10 at 4:30 pm to Ron Mexico
based on the semantics of the Constitution, i say that we adjust the points for LE for this week and then vote on the wording that all linups MUST be submitted 5 minutes before first pitch of first game
we can discuss the 5 minutes or not after the season concludes
we can discuss the 5 minutes or not after the season concludes
This post was edited on 6/28/10 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 6/28/10 at 4:31 pm to reddman
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No, he had 22 hours to drop someone.
it was 12 hours yesterday
Posted on 6/28/10 at 4:32 pm to Lester Earl
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it was 12 hours yesterday
12 hours from the time of the transaction, but another ten hours from the point that lineups locked on friday. I explained this yesterday.
Posted on 6/28/10 at 4:32 pm to Rouge
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based on the semantics of the Constitution, i say that we adjust the points for LE for this week and then vote on the wording that all linups MUST be submitted 5 minutes before first pitch of first game
ok, so that makes 2 people out of all the people that have voiced their opinions do not agree??
I thought everything was about a league majority
Posted on 6/28/10 at 4:32 pm to reddman
This post was edited on 6/28/10 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 6/28/10 at 4:33 pm to Lester Earl
I will go along with whatever the ruling is, and won't bitch one iota about it, fwiw.
I am merely voicing my opinion on the matter.
I am merely voicing my opinion on the matter.
Posted on 6/28/10 at 4:33 pm to reddman
And i seem to recall gyno saying he would vote against a few pages ago.
Posted on 6/28/10 at 4:34 pm to reddman
what would u say if a gun was to your head?
Posted on 6/28/10 at 4:34 pm to Lester Earl
quote:it is
ok, so that makes 2 people out of all the people that have voiced their opinions do not agree??
I thought everything was about a league majority
i dont agree with LE at all on this, but I'm only going by what i have in front of me. there is very little excuse for him not having his lineup set on time, but he does have a reasonable arguement that it took me to provide, even if it's a simple technicality.
Posted on 6/28/10 at 4:34 pm to reddman
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I will go along with whatever the ruling is, and won't bitch one iota about it, fwiw.
this
Posted on 6/28/10 at 4:35 pm to reddman
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Les didn't have 3 days to drop someone, he had to do it AFTER lineups had locked on Saturday.
No, he had 22 hours to drop someone.
Care to comment on the rest of the post? You know, the part about using common sense and all?
Posted on 6/28/10 at 4:35 pm to Lester Earl
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what would u say if a gun was to your head?
I would say that I needed a clean pair of shorts.
Seriously though, I would probably vote that you lose the points for that day. Rules are rules. And I would not have asked to get the points back if I had made the same mistake. No offense.
Posted on 6/28/10 at 4:37 pm to PortCityTiger24
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Care to comment on the rest of the post? You know, the part about using common sense and all?
Huh?
Common sense says that if you knew you were getting a player in a trade, and needed to drop someone, that you would make sure that it was done before the deadline.
Posted on 6/28/10 at 4:39 pm to reddman
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Common sense says that if you knew you were getting a player in a trade, and needed to drop someone, that you would make sure that it was done before the deadline
the same could've been said for Ron's deal earlier in the year fwiw
Posted on 6/28/10 at 4:41 pm to PortCityTiger24
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he had to do it AFTER lineups had locked on Saturday. It's not like he could have done it as soon as he agreed to the trade unless he actually included the guy he was going to drop
He could have dropped the guy as soon as the first game started on Friday. He was in the league lobby wtfpwning me so he was definitely there.
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If the extra player gave Les an advantage then I would be the 1st one saying that it shouldn't count.
Who's to determine benefit? And interpreting if the added player adds benefir everytime this happens is not the way to handle this.
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I think that if it gives someone an unfair advantage then the stats should not count. If it doesn't I don't see the harm in allowing the stats to count.
A few weeks ago I wanted to drop Blake Dewitt and add Neil Walker (who hadnt been called up yet) to be my new back up 2nd baseman. I didnt add him becaus Cano had a day off and I needed Dewitt to play that day for me. According to your position I should have been able to add Walker who wasnt even on a roster and since he didnt add any advantage to me my illegal lineup would be deemed valid.
I didnt add walker and about 2 hours later he was picked up by someone else
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That is called using common sense.
You are confused. Your common sense will create more instances like this.
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