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Veto? AP for Bell

Posted on 9/13/18 at 9:32 am
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10047 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 9:32 am
Had this one pop up on me a second ago and of course the guy getting Bell is going nuts. I flat out said no then he screamed for a league vote. 9-3 and he is still bitching. Is this as much BS as I think it is?

Argument was Bell might not play this season and AP offered immediate RB help. Funny thing is he refused a trade from another manager where he would give up Mark Ingram and get Carlos Hyde... against the Saints this week...

This post was edited on 9/13/18 at 9:37 am
Posted by WhoDatTigahsTampa
S.E.LA2WestFL
Member since Oct 2013
2281 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 9:35 am to
I would vote no. If we're still at this same spot come week 6 or so, maybe then I flip to yes. Still too early in the season for that trade to pass though. IMO.
Posted by rowbear1922
Lake Chuck, LA
Member since Oct 2008
15167 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 9:36 am to
quote:

Had this one pop up on me a second ago and of course the guy getting Bell is going nuts. I flat out said no then he screamed for a league vote. 9-3 and he is still bitching. Is this as much BS as I think it is?


That is absolute complete BS. Don't get me wrong, I'd be pissed if I talked some dumbass into giving me Bell for AP but that is a completely imbalanced trade.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82036 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 9:38 am to
I think the "only veto if there's collusion" is an overrated line of thinking. Some trades are just not good for the league.

With that being said, what if he thinks Bell isn't coming back until week 10? Offer him a better deal for Bell.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34509 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 9:38 am to
We know, he’s already came by and told us about it


LINK
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28726 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 9:39 am to
I mean, did yall offer anything better for Bell?
Posted by Nonetheless
Luka doncic = goat
Member since Jan 2012
33005 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 9:40 am to
Allow it. Bell isn't playing and there are no guarantees he does.
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
51264 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 9:40 am to
Do you have proof this is collusion? Otherwise the trade stands. Collusion is the only justification for denying a trade.


League vote is bush league. People are just going to vote on whether the trade is good or bad for their team. It should always simply be commish approval.


On the trade, I'd just ride bell out but a case can be made for AP here. Its not you or the rest of the leagues job to protect owners from dumb trades.
This post was edited on 9/13/18 at 9:42 am
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26591 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 9:44 am to
quote:

Had this one pop up on me a second ago and of course the guy getting Bell is going nuts. I flat out said no then he screamed for a league vote. 9-3 and he is still bitching. Is this as much BS as I think it is?


Your league sucks. It's entirely up to the owner of Bell to determine his worth. Maybe he has a gut feeling Bell doesn't come back until Week 10? Maybe he thinks AP can be a breakout and have huge value? It's not up to your league to decide whether he's right or wrong.

Unless there is collusion, let the goddamn trade go through. It's such a simple concept yet so many people can't seem to grasp it.
Posted by Brodeur
Member since Feb 2012
4622 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 9:45 am to
I don’t see anything wrong with it. AP saw a huge work share week 1 and Bell has shown no indication of showing up.

Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
54115 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 9:46 am to
bullshite to veto this.

Why punish an owner who worked a deal, who gives a frick if its one sided, the owner put in work to pull off a deal.

Bush league to veto this.

Just because a deal is one sided in a majority of the leagues eyes does not make it vetoable.
Posted by Rabbs and QStick
Houston
Member since Apr 2012
2829 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 9:46 am to
quote:

I would vote no. If we're still at this same spot come week 6 or so, maybe then I flip to yes. Still too early in the season for that trade to pass though. IMO.


It's not your job to manage another team's roster.

Glad I am not in any of these leagues with idiots vetoing.
This post was edited on 9/13/18 at 9:48 am
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
17184 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 9:48 am to
So what if AP goes off and Bell doesn’t play until Week 10?

“Oops our bad...”
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34509 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 9:49 am to
quote:

It should always simply be commish approval.



I agree


What could possibly go wrong with one person having all that authority?














Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36903 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 9:49 am to
quote:

Argument was Bell might not play this season and AP offered immediate RB help.


Sounds reasonable

quote:

Funny thing is he refused a trade from another manager where he would give up Mark Ingram and get Carlos Hyde... against the Saints this week...


What's the problem with that? I wouldn't give up Ingram for Hyde either.
Posted by Thias2685
Member since Sep 2012
2671 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 9:52 am to
There is a very good chance Bell doesn't play for the first 10 weeks. There is also a good chance that when he comes back he won't get a bell cow workload. Both are taking risks. The guy getting AP could in all likelihood be getting the better end of the deal.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
40297 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 9:54 am to
Trade should go through. If Bell doesn’t come back till week 10, a healthy AP
would have more value. Risk on both sides. Ridiculous to block that
Posted by 21JumpStreet
Member since Jul 2012
14654 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 9:56 am to
quote:

Funny thing is he refused a trade from another manager where he would give up Mark Ingram and get Carlos Hyde... against the Saints this week...


"Bro, give me Ingram for Hyde he's playing the Saints this week"

"WTF, you're giving him Bell for AP and you didn't want to accept my trade?"

"Veto"
This post was edited on 9/13/18 at 9:57 am
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10047 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 9:57 am to
Those of you against how would any trade get vetoed if you have to "prove" collusion? Hire a private eye or attain a subpoena for their text and email records? Everyone would be making side deals if this was the standard. He turned down Hyde for Ingram and then accepted AP for a top 3 player.

If Bell reports tomorrow and AP gets hurt, very likely, the next day?

"Oops our bad..."
Posted by Stevo1856
Member since Jan 2017
122 posts
Posted on 9/13/18 at 9:58 am to
Feel like you have to let this go through.
If you are worried it will stack a team then get better fantasy owners, if you can’t prove they are cheating then it’s gotta stand.
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