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Posted on 9/24/12 at 11:35 am to
Posted by PortCityTiger24
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Posted on 9/24/12 at 11:35 am to
Thanks.

Two seems like too many to me, though.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 9/24/12 at 11:46 am to
I liked the idea bjl had about injuries part year. That you can only use the slot to stash a player who is out for the year. Or once you put them in an injury slot, you can play them again in your lineup. Forget the exact way he had it
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Posted on 9/24/12 at 12:12 pm to
Granger OTB. Looking for a pg or 2g
Posted by Toula
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Posted on 9/24/12 at 12:20 pm to
You keeping Varejao ??
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Posted on 9/24/12 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

I liked the idea bjl had about injuries part year. That you can only use the slot to stash a player who is out for the year. Or once you put them in an injury slot, you can play them again in your lineup. Forget the exact way he had it


my idea was that if you used the injury slot on a player, he was pencilled in as one of your keepers the next year.

i think just having normal injury slots completely changes the complexion of this league. and there are so many decision that would've been made differently, with big name players going down. i don't think the change/ability should come without a price.
This post was edited on 9/24/12 at 12:36 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 9/24/12 at 12:42 pm to
I don't think. Do you want him
Posted by Toula
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Posted on 9/24/12 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

i think just having normal injury slots completely changes the complexion of this league.


can you list any negatives to an IR slot as specified by ESPNs rules?
I agree it changes how decisions would have been made in the past, but it's not right to think that way with trying to improve this league going forward.

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i don't think the change/ability should come without a price.


it comes with a price, as you still compete without a valuable player.

With the amount of streaming that occurs in TDBBL, i also like the idea an IR taking away possibly 12 more guys out of the FA pool.
This post was edited on 9/24/12 at 12:52 pm
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Posted on 9/24/12 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

can you list any negatives to an IR slot as specified by ESPNs rules?
I agree it changes how decisions would have been made in the past, but it's not right to think that way with trying to improve this league going forward.


i don't know if it's a negative, but i do like the times when people have to trade/drop a player to try and stay competitive when the player is out for 2 weeks or a month. i think it encourages movement of players and trading.

i think the biggest thing is this league is one of my fave leagues. and there's really not a whole lot of problem with it. and short term injuries aren't that big a problem. you roll with it.

i think the real problem is catastrophe insurance IR spot. if your best player gets hurt, i don't think you should be forced to choose between giving him up or just giving up on the season. it's a keeper league.
Posted by TigerPhan27
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Posted on 9/24/12 at 1:17 pm to
are we going to have a cap on games played this year?
Posted by PortCityTiger24
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Posted on 9/24/12 at 1:23 pm to
Good call. We need to vote on that. 48 - 50 games seems like a good number for a regular 82 game. NBA season.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 9/24/12 at 1:25 pm to
There's no IR in the Nba. I think that is the biggest thing

We've had lineup problems is baseball and they actually designate DL time. I can only imagine done of the problems that could happen here.
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Posted on 9/24/12 at 1:26 pm to
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a cap on games played


I approve of this.
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Posted on 9/24/12 at 1:32 pm to
that's kind of why i think it's a good deal to adopt my strategy. IR but with a price. You'll really need to make sure you want to use it carefully.
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Posted on 9/24/12 at 1:32 pm to
port you on gchat?
Posted by Toula
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Posted on 9/24/12 at 1:38 pm to
Most guys are ruled OUT and they do file official injury reports.

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I can only imagine done of the problems that could happen here.


there won't be problems, b/c ESPN isn't a retarded site like CBS and doesn't allow you to have an illegal roster. If you have a guy on IR and he comes off, you will not be able to make any move whatsoever until you take him off. But will not be penalized in the process.



Posted by PortCityTiger24
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Posted on 9/24/12 at 1:41 pm to
Yep
Posted by TigerPhan27
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Posted on 9/24/12 at 1:41 pm to
quote:

There's no IR in the Nba. I think that is the biggest thing


I proposed something last year in which if you had an injured player you could designate him as injured and put him on the IR and pick up a replacement. But if you put someone on your IR you can't use them for X amount of games even if they come back and play. And if they do come back and play the replacement player you picked up is not eligible to be used anymore and must be dropped
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 9/24/12 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

Most guys are ruled OUT and they do file official injury reports.


That is still not a disabled list.

quote:

there won't be problems, b/c ESPN isn't a retarded site like CBS and doesn't allow you to have an illegal roster. If you have a guy on IR and he comes off, you will not be able to make any move whatsoever until you take him off. But will not be penalized in the process.


Im more talking about someone having a player on IR when he is playing in games.

because there is no set designation on games you have to miss, like a DL, i have a hard time believing that this is fully accurate.

There is a potential advantage there... It may not be a big deal in the regular season, but when the playoffs come and every little game matters, it could be a problem.
Posted by cwill
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Posted on 9/24/12 at 2:39 pm to
There is no DL or IR in the NBA so we shouldn't have one...if you have a big name player that's hurt you can trade him to a non-contender for like value or just hold on to him.
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Posted on 9/24/12 at 2:55 pm to
quote:

There is no DL or IR in the NBA so we shouldn't have one...if you have a big name player that's hurt you can trade him to a non-contender for like value or just hold on to him.


i'm still unsatisfied with this. there are too many advantages given that do not compel teams in this league to compete towards the end, instead of playing for next season.

i still like my catastrophe ir spot. but i think i've said my piece, i'll be happy to vote on whichever issue y'all wanna.

i'm against traditional IR spot.
For my resolution that you can put a guy on IR, but you have to keep him the next year.
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