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Pick the rookie RB that carries people to fantasy titles...not named CEH

Posted on 9/12/20 at 11:31 am
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 9/12/20 at 11:31 am
Taylor, Dobbins, Akers, and Swift are pretty damn talented backs but all landed in less than ideal landing spots for fantasy purposes

Akers probably has the least amount of competition and the best chance to emerge early with one his competitors dinged

Taylor I'm not buying this bullshite about him simply being drafted to spell Mack, come on. But Mack is also a good enough player to keep a steady role all season barring injury (which is likely given his history). Taylor would need to ball out to completely wipe out Mack. His ADP remained pretty pricey throughout though

Dobbins was probably had the cheapest of this bunch in drafts and may have the highest upside. if Ingram gets dinged or just slips as an older back, Dobbins is an RB1 in that offense.

A few weeks ago I thought Swift was the safest of this bunch because he seemed to at minimum have the passing work in the offense but he's stayed on the shelf and the AP signing was discouraging. Still AP is pretty washed and Johnson has admitted he can't handle the load or stay healthy. This could play out similar to the backfield AP found himself in with the saints a few years ago.

Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
39222 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 11:32 am to
James Robinson
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108824 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 11:33 am to
Zack Moss. My reasoning is that he's on my team.
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James Robinson

Another good one because he's on my team.
This post was edited on 9/12/20 at 11:34 am
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/12/20 at 11:33 am to
Dobbins is going to take over the last 7 or 8 games and be a league winner, IMO. I’m hoping for a few subpar weeks and I’m making trades
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/12/20 at 11:38 am to
quote:

Taylor, Dobbins, Akers, and Swift are pretty damn talented backs but all landed in less than ideal landing spots for fantasy purposes


Taylor
Akers
Dobbins
Moss
Swift
Dillon

In that order.

Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/12/20 at 11:41 am to
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James Robinson
Jags are projected to be the worst team in the NFL. Doesn't bode well for his opportunities. Especially when they already have a third down back.
Posted by Thias2685
Member since Sep 2012
2706 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 11:44 am to
I feel like Akers has the clearest path. Even though his O-line sucks his talent should eventually prevail over Henderson/Brown and shouldn't see stacked boxes with such a good passing offense. Taylor/Dobbins have Mack/Ingram who are both good enough to force a shared workload. If Mack/Ingram go down for the season then Taylor/Dobbins are league winners though.

I'd rank them Akers, Taylor, Dobbins, Moss but if Mack/Ingram are out of the picture then I'd put Akers behind Taylor and Dobbins.
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 9/12/20 at 11:49 am to
Taylor or Akers
This post was edited on 9/12/20 at 11:50 am
Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 9/12/20 at 11:59 am to
Akers
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74444 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 12:03 pm to
Dobbins is the best talent and he has the most opportunity in an offense built for rushing the football

Gus Edwards and Justice Hill had 191 carries last gear

Ingram is only a 200 carry RB max on a team that ran the ball 400 times (not counting Lamar or RG3 rush attempts)

Wouldn’t be surprised if Dobbins out carries Ingram this year when it’s said and done
Posted by Mpd31
Member since Nov 2019
3118 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 12:38 pm to
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ngram is only a 200 carry RB max on a team that ran the ball 400 times (not counting Lamar or RG3 rush attempts)


The biggest question is who is going to get most of the goal line looks and that is probably going to be Ingram. I don’t see Ingram going away in that offense unless he gets hurt. TAylor probably has the best opportunity. Best offensive line in the league and has the talent to take Mack out of the picture. Akers is probably next just due to his opportunity and lack of competition. I have Zack Moss in both my leagues. I think he has a lot of upside and is more talented than singletary. Remember singletary was only a 5th round pick and he has struggled with ball security. I don’t like swifts situation in Detroit. Even if he somehow got the majority of the touches the lions run blocking is horrible. AJ Dillion is a dark horse but would have to be an injury to aaron Jones for him to be relevant.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74444 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 2:36 pm to
Ingram doesn’t have to go away for Dobbins to be relevant, that’s the point. Not even factoring in TDs as Lamar Jackson had his hand in 75% of the scoring last year.

Taylor doesn’t have the PPR upside because Hines is there, coupled with Mack


Moss’s upside is capped w singletary and Allen

Akers is 2nd after Dobbins
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31255 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 3:51 pm to
Jonathan Taylor

He could be a 2021 first round pick in fantasy.
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
32549 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 5:06 pm to
For me, it's very very easy. Cam Akers. I feel like as long as you have Akers with a decent team around you you're gonna win your leagues.
Posted by Mpd31
Member since Nov 2019
3118 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 6:20 pm to
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Ingram doesn’t have to go away for Dobbins to be relevant, that’s the point. Not even factoring in TDs as Lamar Jackson had his hand in 75% of the scoring last year.


The questions was not which rookie rb will be fantasy relevant. It was which rookie rb has the potential to win you championship. Surely, dobbins has the ability to have a decent floor but if he is sharing the load with Ingram and Ingram is getting the goal line looks along with Lamar then that isn’t a rookie I’m banking on. That is a low ceiling back unless there is an injury.

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Taylor doesn’t have the PPR upside because Hines is there, coupled with mack


There is nothing about Hines or Mack that says let me take Taylor off the field to put one of those guys in. Wisconsin didn’t ask Taylor to catch passes often but when they did he was effective. He much more explosive playmaker than either of those guys. Has a much higher potential workload than dobbins on a better offensive line.

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Moss outside is capped with singletary and allen


How? Singletary was a 5th rounder. There isn’t anything special about him and he has ball security issues.He also runs like a 4.6. As for Allen if Moss is effective running the ball in short yardage you are going to run him over banging up your qb.

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Akers is 2nd after dobbins


Akers could be first or second. I don’t see how you can say that Taylor and Moss’s upside is capped but rank Dobbins as the top rookie after CEH lol. That makes no sense. He has the most competition for carries out of all the rookies. Oh and by the way Dobbins is currently the 4th back on the depth chart.
This post was edited on 9/12/20 at 6:24 pm
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74444 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 8:17 pm to
Wait let me get this straight - only the guys you like aren’t affected by competition. Haha


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. I don’t see how you can say that Taylor and Moss’s upside is capped but rank Dobbins as the top rookie after CEH lol.


Wut

You realize the competition is relative to the actual amount of available carries in an offense

I acknowledged the competition in BAL twice. Baltimore had 100 more rush attempts than the next closest team last year. Opportunity is going to dictate which one of these guys in the most successful


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There is nothing about Hines or Mack that says let me take Taylor off the field to put one of those guys in.


Except what came out of Frank reich and OC Nick Sirianni mouths, but yeah guy

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How? Singletary was a 5th rounder. There isn’t anything special about him and he has ball security issues.He also runs like a 4.6.


How what? You think Singletary just goes swag? Allen? Moss runs a 4.6 too dude. These guys just not go away and yield 250 carries to Moss

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I don’t see how you can say that Taylor and Moss’s upside is capped but rank Dobbins as the top rookie after CEH lol. That makes no sense. He has the most competition for carries out of all the rookies. Oh and by the way Dobbins is currently the 4th back on the depth chart.


None of the rookies are bell cows. You do not understand how opportunity works. You’re over here still talking about depth charts
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162938 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 10:19 pm to
One thing I haven’t figured out this fantasy offseason is when it became widely accepted that moss is this incredibly talented RB
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74444 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 11:03 pm to




He’s a PFF darling but his measurables are mehsurables
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
17607 posts
Posted on 9/13/20 at 12:31 am to
Burrow. You won’t start him. But AJ, Boyd, Mixon, etc all play of him.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162938 posts
Posted on 9/13/20 at 2:04 pm to
And Mack is gone
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