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re: FSBDL 2017 - MWG is your Champion

Posted on 5/15/17 at 9:53 am to
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 9:53 am to
Ideally you'd have a few hours after a trade to make a move. So many trades are made IRT anyway that the move is just made right after.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 9:54 am to
Yea that's fine. You just can't make any moves in that case
Posted by Toula
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 9:58 am to
quote:

Yea that's fine. You just can't make any moves in that case



Yup. Constitution is pretty clear on this. Can't add/drop or trade unless your lineup is legal:

quote:

4. During the offseason, disabled lists end, and teams will not be able to make any transactions (add/drop or trade) until their rosters are made legal.
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:04 am to
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and teams will not be able to make any transactions (add/drop or trade) until their rosters are made legal.



well...you have to be able to make drops to make your roster legal....just sayin'
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:15 am to
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well...you have to be able to make drops to make your roster legal....just sayin'


Right, or in some cases make an add, if you traded away your only player eligible at a position.

So, I guess we should clarify that no moves can be made unless they are to make your roster legal.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 11:21 am to
You can make drops you just can't add or trade
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 11:44 am to
If we're going letter of the law here...it says no adds/drops.


Just pointing it out.

Obviously we can make drops.
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 11:58 am to
And obviously you can make an add to get your lineup legal as well.

Personally I have no issue with making a trade to get your lineup legal, as long as that's the first move with an illegal lineup.
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 12:04 pm to
A drop doesn't count as a transaction

In fantrax language. Doesn't count against your total transactions for the week. So that part can be taken out constitution
This post was edited on 5/15/17 at 12:05 pm
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 12:10 pm to
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And obviously you can make an add to get your lineup legal as well.




Your lineup becomes "legal" in the offseason once you clear your DL. Clearing your DL gives you the right to add drop as you please. So unless I'm misunderstanding you, I don't think that's an issue

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Personally I have no issue with making a trade to get your lineup legal, as long as that's the first move with an illegal lineup.


Again, maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but you cannot make a trade or add in offseason w guys on DL or MiLB guys in an MLB spot. That's what Redd did, which by the letter of the law isn't legal, nor should it be
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 12:13 pm to
Under no circumstance should an MiLB guy who does not have an AB or IP be in a MLB spot. Ever. And by no means should an owner be making moves if one of those guys are in a MLB spot

Can anyone disagree with this?
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 12:16 pm to
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Your lineup becomes "legal" in the offseason once you clear your DL. Clearing your DL gives you the right to add drop as you please. So unless I'm misunderstanding you, I don't think that's an issue


Say today I trade away Realmuto or Correa in a deal and don't get a C or SS in return... now my lineup is illegal, and the only way to correct that is to add a player. Obviously I can legally add someone in that situation to make my lineup legal.

quote:

Again, maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but you cannot make a trade or add in offseason w guys on DL or MiLB guys in an MLB spot. That's what Redd did, which by the letter of the law isn't legal, nor should it be


I guess what I'm saying is, if you make a trade that renders your lineup illegal (you wouldn't be able to make that first trade if you had lineup issues) then you should be able to make a coinciding trade to get your lineup back legal. All the time people are working out trades and often they are contingent on another trade going through. I'm aware that there are ways to do three-way trades (or more) on Fantrax, but that can be quite cumbersome while negotiating.


Posted by MrWiseGuy
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 12:40 pm to
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Can anyone disagree with this?



It's amazing to me this is even an issue in year 3. It's not that difficult
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 1:00 pm to
Yeah we are talking two different things. Ron and T were referencing offseason lineups

Regular season lineups are a different ballgame.

You have the 6 transactions to get your lineup straight after trades.

But there are two types of illegal lineups - one fantrax polices itself regarding having starting positions filled and what not. The other is one we have to police based on the constitution - MiLB guys on MLB rosters who aren't eligible. Guys on DL who aren't eligible. Guys in MiLB spots who are no longer eligible
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 1:01 pm to
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Guys on DL who aren't eligible. Guys in MiLB spots who are no longer eligible


Fantrax will partially police these... can't make any adds/drops while in violation.
Posted by cwill
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 2:11 pm to
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Under no circumstance should an MiLB guy who does not have an AB or IP be in a MLB spot. Ever. And by no means should an owner be making moves if one of those guys are in a MLB spot

Can anyone disagree with this?


No.
Posted by barry
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 3:13 pm to
I also think the rule should be amended to have innings limits for RP v SP. RP shouldn't get 190IP before having to be kicked out of the minor leagues. It should probably be something like if you have 100 IP and no games started.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 3:38 pm to
was thinking of that today

the number now is 150, not 190.


rule could be something like "until you start a game, you get 75IP before you have to be moved to MLB roster. Once you start a game, you get 150 IP".
Posted by barry
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 3:40 pm to
quote:

rule could be something like "until you start a game, you get 75IP before you have to be moved to MLB roster. Once you start a game, you get 150 IP".



yea
Posted by EarlyBird
Member since Jun 2006
4109 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 4:09 pm to
Hey guys. Go ahead and dock my points from last week and move on. This doesn't need to be a soap opera.
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