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re: Billingsley and Kelly Johnson for Chase Utley

Posted on 5/22/10 at 7:50 pm to
Posted by GerryDiNardo
Bringing Back The Magic!
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 5/22/10 at 7:50 pm to
quote:

what if Kelly Johnson keeps up the pace?

you never know. Its not a trade that should be vetoed, esp if it was proposed to him


If it ruins the competitiveness of the league then it should be vetoed. End of story.
Posted by reddman
Member since Jul 2005
78187 posts
Posted on 5/22/10 at 7:51 pm to
There are way too many questions here. Who are his other options at 2B? Did he need pitching bad? What's his overall record so far?
Posted by reddman
Member since Jul 2005
78187 posts
Posted on 5/22/10 at 7:52 pm to
quote:

If it ruins the competitiveness of the league then it should be vetoed. End of story.


I'm sorry, but that's horseshite. Again, post both rosters. If he really needed pitching, and his offense is raking, I could see where he would make a move like that. I personally wouldn't do it, but is sure as hell wouldn't be veto-worthy.
This post was edited on 5/22/10 at 7:55 pm
Posted by reddman
Member since Jul 2005
78187 posts
Posted on 5/22/10 at 7:53 pm to
I think Ive said this 50 times. People totally abuse the veto option. Just because you wouldn't do the trade doesn't make it veto worthy. Now, if you post the rosters and it makes absolutely no sense, then I will revise my statement.

Posted by reddman
Member since Jul 2005
78187 posts
Posted on 5/22/10 at 7:59 pm to
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No his pitching is actually better than his hitting.


Hmmm.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 5/22/10 at 8:01 pm to
Would you veto Jose Bautista for Beckett?
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279480 posts
Posted on 5/22/10 at 8:01 pm to
quote:

If it ruins the competitiveness of the league then it should be vetoed. End of story.



not if Kelly Johnson has a year like Chase Utley. You dont know if he will or not
Posted by GerryDiNardo
Bringing Back The Magic!
Member since Mar 2004
5566 posts
Posted on 5/22/10 at 8:02 pm to
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I think Ive said this 50 times. People totally abuse the veto option.


I actually agree on this. But this trade is quite different. It's been the third complete fleece for the same team and he's taking advantage of the guys who don't know any better and ruining a money league.

Also the teams he's making deals with have not paid.
Posted by reddman
Member since Jul 2005
78187 posts
Posted on 5/22/10 at 8:03 pm to
quote:

Also the teams he's making deals with have not paid.


This automatically qualifies as a shite league then, imo.

Posted by GerryDiNardo
Bringing Back The Magic!
Member since Mar 2004
5566 posts
Posted on 5/22/10 at 8:04 pm to
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not if Kelly Johnson has a year like Chase Utley. You dont know if he will or not


That's funny.
Posted by GerryDiNardo
Bringing Back The Magic!
Member since Mar 2004
5566 posts
Posted on 5/22/10 at 8:04 pm to
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This automatically qualifies as a shite league then, imo.


They're his boys.. it's on him.
This post was edited on 5/22/10 at 8:05 pm
Posted by reddman
Member since Jul 2005
78187 posts
Posted on 5/22/10 at 8:07 pm to
Nice edit.

Posted by The Easter Bunny
Minnesota
Member since Jan 2005
45573 posts
Posted on 5/23/10 at 8:51 pm to
quote:

Again, post both rosters.


Team A
Buck
Barton
Utley
McGehee
Cabrera
Damon
Drew
Jackson
Ordonez
Young
Lily
Matsuzaka
Oswalt
Petitte
Sabathia
Clippard
Hoffman
Pappelbon

Team B
McCann
Butler
Johnson
Longoria
Tulowitzki
Kemp
McLouth
Upton
Quentin
Zobrist
Billingsley
Johnson
Kennedy
Niemann
Wainwright
Corpas
Soria
Wagner
Posted by reddman
Member since Jul 2005
78187 posts
Posted on 5/23/10 at 9:18 pm to
How the frick did that dude land Longoria, Kemp, and Tulo on the same fricking team?

Now he's adding Utley?

Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279480 posts
Posted on 5/23/10 at 9:18 pm to
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How the frick did that dude land Longoria, Kemp, and Tulo on the same fricking team?



gerry probably gave him pointers
Posted by The Easter Bunny
Minnesota
Member since Jan 2005
45573 posts
Posted on 5/23/10 at 10:40 pm to
Took Kemp in the first, got Tulo in the 2nd, and traded Marcum and Sandoval for Longoria. Also was able to trade Correia and Bengie Molina for McCann
Posted by Louie T
htx
Member since Dec 2006
36339 posts
Posted on 5/23/10 at 10:48 pm to
how many teams in the league?
Posted by GerryDiNardo
Bringing Back The Magic!
Member since Mar 2004
5566 posts
Posted on 5/23/10 at 11:42 pm to
12 team Weekly H2H.. The league agreed on 5 Keepers with 2 ML spots. Which only makes this trade that much worse.

The team trading away Utley is in last place. That team is also starting Daric Barton at 1B. I don't think he can really afford to trade elite hitters..

Repeatedly exploiting weaker players with such dramatically lopsided trades does ruin the competitiveness of the league.
Posted by GerryDiNardo
Bringing Back The Magic!
Member since Mar 2004
5566 posts
Posted on 5/23/10 at 11:42 pm to
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How the frick did that dude land Longoria, Kemp, and Tulo on the same fricking team?


Longoria for Sandoval and Marcum ring a bell?
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:12 am to
KJ has 7 o-fers in his past 14 games.. but he has been a .270 hitter before..

i think he winds up with 22 homers, 65 rbi's, .267 batting avg.
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