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Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:09 pm to
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
15673 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:09 pm to
Merica is bout to prosper.

I look forward to Libs claiming it's bc of Obama when he's long gone.
Posted by tjohn deaux
GA
Member since Feb 2007
10282 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:09 pm to
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I expect some accountability

No you don't. Democrats don't understand accountability. But if you want some practice, try it with Hillary and her posse.
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Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
115709 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:11 pm to
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I look forward to Libs claiming it's bc of Obama when he's long gone.


After 8 years of 2% growth it's gonna be really hard to claim credit for 4% growth after their ouster. But, they shall try.
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
23034 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:11 pm to
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Because he's never had a normal job. He was financed by his dad


LOL! "Real estate tycoon" is now an inherited position?
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60658 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:12 pm to
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Wait wait wait. The Pt mantra was always "You can't blame Bush"


Didn't stop the left though, did it? For 6 strong years it was Bush's fault. When the American people finally had heard enough of that Obama quit blaming Bush.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
18093 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:13 pm to
This country has been steered left too long. Going back right for a while is a good balance to prevent us from becoming Europe 2.0.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60658 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:14 pm to
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
115709 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:22 pm to
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Still haven't accepted the fact that white women lie to pollsters, have you?


Hell, ALL women lie to EVERYONE.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22628 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:23 pm to
"Obama Is Going To Pay For My Gas And Mortgage!!!" (fast forward a few years - reality check) LINK

Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:32 pm to
Uh no. Everything you're seeing today is due to GWB. Everything.

Obama was left with 2 wars, recession and a bleak future. He ended Iraq and has the economy trending in a positive direction. He's left the American people in a better place than he found them. The only blemish is the ACA. That's on Congress though.

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My book, "The President as Economist: Scoring Economic Performance from Harry Truman to Obama," uses these and 12 other well-established indicators to calculate a performance score for each president going back to Truman. The top score is 100, zero is average, and negative scores are below average.



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Obama comes in eighth out of the 12, but still records a positive score, indicating a roughly average performance. That is based on six full years of his record, from 2010 to 2016. (This analysis leaves two years to go, because I allowed one year for the effects from the previous administration to subside -- more on that later.) 

That is not a stunning performance, but it is a major improvement over that of his predecessor, George W. Bush, whose economic score was significantly lower than even Jimmy Carter’s. Rest assured, in this analysis a president’s score takes into account what he inherited and what he left behind. That’s one reality that both benefited and hampered Ronald Reagan’s and Obama’s scores.

Kennedy had the best record, but it was only for three years. There was no normal business cycle -- that is, a recession -- during his short presidency. Truman is in second place; his performance was impressive because it was recorded over eight years




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Obama’s critics might challenge the notion that a president has anything to do with inflation. Would the same critics be so skeptical of Obama’s performance if they knew that the biggest positive in Ronald Reagan’s score was the reduction in inflation -- even though Carter, not Reagan, appointed Paul Volcker, the Fed chairman who reduced inflation?

The big improvement in stock prices was another significant positive for both Reagan and Obama. Based on that indicator alone, Reagan would be No. 2 on the presidential performance list, and Obama would be No. 4.

On the negative side, while GDP growth has been positive for 25 of the past 27 quarters, the rate of growth under Obama has not been stellar. In fact, at 2.1 percent, it is the fourth-lowest growth rate of any president’s and below the postwar average of 2.9 percent.

Another indicator that gets lost in the partisan back and forth is jobs growth. It is true that the unemployment rate has plummeted under Obama, a very good thing. It is also true that labor participation has fallen considerably. That fact moderates the unemployment accomplishment. But by how much?

An indicator that takes the participation rate into account is simply the growth in the number of employed people. The Obama administration can claim 76 straight months of jobs growth. That’s pretty darn good, but the rate of job growth during his administration, given the falling participation rate, comes to only 1 percent. Only three presidents had lower job growth rates (the two Bushes and, this may surprise you, Eisenhower). 



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The average share of federal debt, its increase, the average budget deficits and the balance of trade are also significant negatives for Obama, just as they were for Reagan and the Bushes. Obama has had one positive area relating to the budget that the others didn’t have -- the reduction of the deficit. Bush’s 2009 budget deficit of $1.4 trillion was nearly half (47.4 percent) of the total budget. Obama’s 2015 deficit was $438 billion, or 12.5 percent of the total budget.



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The scores also abide by a politically conservative article of faith: An increase in the federal government, as measured by taxes and expenditures as a share of GDP, is counted negatively on a president’s record. The lower those numbers are as a percentage of GDP, the better the president’s score.

To be clear, the analysis follows this approach, not because smaller government is necessarily better, but because it means that the president was able to achieve private-sector growth, employment creation and so on with fewer federal resources. If the economy achieved more with the same or fewer resources, then it is more efficient.

Obama’s record also has to be seen in the context of a couple of larger economic phenomena that provided no help to his score: the need to reduce consumer debt that had soared under George W. Bush (“de-leveraging”) along with excessive real-estate inventory, and the below-average growth in the global economy after the financial crisis. Both proved to be sustained drags on the U.S. economy, but were no fault of Obama’s. 

Once the financial crisis hit in 2008, consumers began spending less. From the third quarter of 2008, total consumer debt, including mortgages, credit cards and auto loans, fell for 19 of the next 20 quarters, dropping by $940 billion. This figure is on the upswing again, but paying off debt is a good thing, and this should cast Obama’s economic score in a better light.

(Under his predecessor, paradoxically, total consumer debt doubled to more than $12 trillion, yet the growth rate under George W. Bush was the lowest for the postwar presidents.)

Obama and the U.S. have not gotten much of a boost from the global economy, either. The global growth rate has hovered around 2 percent to 2.5 percent, well below the global growth rate during the Reagan, Clinton and George W. Bush administrations.

What is the takeaway then on Obama’s economic performance? When you take the slow global growth and domestic consumers’ retrenchment on debt into account, the record emerging from his rather calm and cautious approach is one to build on, not one to be cast aside.




LINK


Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
15801 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:35 pm to
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There is no democrat in power to blame for the problems that will occur. In fact things are about to get a whole lot worse. Voting has consequences. I expect some accountability from conservatives the next 4 years.



The real problem for democrats is the Supreme Court. Trump can possibly (probably) get 3 justices. 2 of which are liberal as hell.

Ginsburg is 84 (and said she would resign if Trump was elected).
Beyer is 79

You can expect the pendulum to swing far to the right.
You can expect strict Voter ID laws to be enacted.
You can expect federal guidelines for uniform voting machine requirements. Say goodbye to the Soro's electronic machines.
You can expect voter redistricting to reduce the urban influence being as prevalent.

Oh, and I hope they require every freaking household to own an AR15.


Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:39 pm to
There's so much misinformation in this post I don't even care to start to dissect it. Hold on tight. You're about get wrecked as we move towards limited government, individual freedoms and ACTUAL prosperity.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:41 pm to
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There is no democrat in power to blame for the problems that will occur. In fact things are about to get a whole lot worse. Voting has consequences. I expect some accountability from conservatives the next 4 years.


they will figure out a way. Bush had unchecked power and we see what that brought us. Obama had a bit of it, and we got obamacare.

Divided gov't is the way to go.
Posted by SP2016
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2016
122 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:49 pm to
B. Clinton left office with a balanced budget. The Bush years got us into a huge financial mess.

Obama inherited the wall street problems. Sorry, but Trump supporters can't change that historical fact.

And if you think domestic employment will improve under Trump, good luck with that.

He's from and for the upper class, and ya'll bit on his "working man" BS.

Have fun now, cause it's only going to get worse.

Also for those that claim they supported Trump because they were tired of the Washington corruption, congrats, you just elected one of the most corrupt businessmen in "Merica." Hope that works out for you.



Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
70959 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 7:30 pm to
Man, you are one dumb motherfricker. You always have been a shitty poster. Troll me if you want. I don't really care that much.

I am behind Trump. I took a pic of me voting for Trump. Why in the frick would I melt stupid arse dumb shite cocksucking motherfricker.

Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
86762 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 7:32 pm to
Obama did blame the retard for all of his problems.






Which he was right about, especially the war he and the coward Cheney got us into.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
25564 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 7:34 pm to
Well we can still blame you. So there's that.

But to answer your OP, you are correct. Get ready to see how the country can get shite done.
Posted by Zchlsu
Twin Peaks, Washington
Member since Jan 2011
6942 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 7:36 pm to
I wish you had accountability for your shite posting history.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
21356 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 7:43 pm to
quote:

There is no democrat in power to blame for the problems that will occur. In fact things are about to get a whole lot worse. Voting has consequences. I expect some accountability from conservatives the next 4 years.
Original.

Like the third time one of you morons said this.

You idiots nominated the one crook who could lose to Trump.

Accept the results.
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