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If you care about freedom, then California pot initiative matters the most

Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:14 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39873 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:14 pm
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No disrespect to Colorado or Washington or Alaska, but California’s pot business would totally dwarf those already legal markets. Colorado, for instance, collected more than $135 million in pot-related revenues last year. California could collect up to $1 billion annually within a few years of legalization.

And if California votes to legalize, other states will follow. That will bring new pressure on the Drug Enforcement Agency to alter its preposterous classification of marijuana as a Schedule 1 drug, which means it has no known medical benefit and is considered as dangerous as heroin and LSD. (Twenty-five states, by the way, already have medical marijuana laws. Why the feds continue to resist re-scheduling, even as they loosen rules on growing pot for medical research, is just plain bizarre.)


LINK

All signs point to California legalizing, which is likely the tipping point which will contribute to all of our greater freedom.
Posted by Bob Sacamano
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
5294 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:15 pm to
This I am excited about.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:15 pm to
Hopefully it will draw all the lib hippies back to Cali...and Colorado can be red again.
Posted by Radiojones
The Twilight Zone
Member since Feb 2007
10728 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:16 pm to
Too bad I no longer have the freedom to chose not to purchase health insurance from a private company but I guess the left isn't interested in that kind of freedom.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:17 pm to
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157971 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:17 pm to
That troll only cares about certain freedoms.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84750 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:17 pm to
Both parties pick and choose how they like their freedom.

It's why I voted almost straight ticket libertarian
Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
Member since Oct 2014
16385 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:17 pm to
I prefer the black market ditch weed I get from the guy that cuts my lawn...
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39873 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:19 pm to
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Too bad I no longer have the freedom to chose not to purchase health insurance from a private company


You don't? Link?
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90769 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:21 pm to
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You don't? Link?
Sure just pay the fine, how free it is.
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
34582 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:26 pm to
I am watching Arkansas and Florida. Time for the south to enter this discussion
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39873 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:32 pm to
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Sure just pay the fine, how free it is.


Better than being jailed.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90769 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:34 pm to
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Better than being jailed.
Soon to come, no insurance it will be slammer time.
Posted by braindeadboxer
Utopia
Member since Nov 2011
8742 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:39 pm to
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Big Scrub TX


I'm agreeing with a liberal idiot.


But yea, labeling weed as a Sch 1 narcotic is archaic and ignorant. I want to throw up when I hear all about how it'll lead to everyone driving while high and killing all of our kids. As if they won't still lock your arse up for that.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39873 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

I'm agreeing with a liberal idiot.


I'm not liberal. I'm just not a Jade-Helm-believing mouth breather.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49413 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:42 pm to
Good news. Absolutely no reason for marijuana to be illegal. It's beyond time to end the war on drugs.
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
14571 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:43 pm to
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Hopefully it will draw all the lib hippies back to Cali...and Colorado can be red again.


This and I wish all the lib Yankees would leave Florida and move back to the Northeast.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74211 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:43 pm to
Big scrub, I'm all for pot related legislation, but isn't the revenue gained nullified by sales tax revenue lost Elsewhere. If you have 10 bucks in income and buy a unit of pot and pay the tax that goes with it, that means you have LESS money to spend on other goods, which means lost sales tax revenue
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39873 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:46 pm to
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Big scrub, I'm all for pot related legislation, but isn't the revenue gained nullified by sales tax revenue lost Elsewhere. If you have 10 bucks in income and buy a unit of pot and pay the tax that goes with it, that means you have LESS money to spend on other goods, which means lost sales tax revenue


Possibly. Here's a very good read on a whole host of considerations in these legalizations. Re taxation, the author argues that the tax effect is too small to be one of the selling points.

LINK
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
25202 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:55 pm to
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Big scrub, I'm all for pot related legislation, but isn't the revenue gained nullified by sales tax revenue lost Elsewhere. If you have 10 bucks in income and buy a unit of pot and pay the tax that goes with it, that means you have LESS money to spend on other goods, which means lost sales tax revenue



Not really. Most people that smoke, do it even though it's illegal. When it's not a black market item, the prices drop by at least half to two thirds. That means smokers have more money to spend, even after paying taxes.

There are some that would smoke if it weren't illegal, but that number is dwarfed by the current smokers. At least it has been in Colorado.


Only people who lose, are greedy frickers who profit off of the prison industrial complex.

I say we give prison guards security jobs at dispensaries. It's a win/win/win.
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