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re: DING DONG, I was wrong

Posted on 11/9/16 at 11:41 am to
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 11:41 am to
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So, when did the elites change thier minds and what do you think precipitated it?
That's the million-dollar question. The same thing happened to her in 2008. She was going to be President and at the last minute, they gave it to Obama.

I don't know why. I'm glad, but I don't know why.

I want to believe it's because the American people were so overwhelmingly angry at her, at the establishment, that they decided they'd better give us our way this time or we would revolt.

They know that the only way they win is if we keep playing the game.

But I don't believe for one minute that Donald Trump is anti-establishment. The media doesn't give billions in free advertisement to anti-establishment candidates. Ron Paul is a good example of that.

People are celebrating some sort of victory. Unfortunately, nothing is going to change because Trump is as establishment as Hillary.

At some point I hope America wakes up to the realization that the establishment gets its way, whether by the Republican candidate or the Democratic candidate.

When nothing changes under Trump, maybe that happens.

Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 11:42 am to
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Worst apology....EVER!

You'll never learn.


Educate me.
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 11:43 am to
Steel beams don't melt and neither does TX Tiger
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 11:43 am to
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I'll be real man. You probably have more credibility on this board that at any other time. shite you've been telling us for years has been proven to be true.


Thanks man.
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Communist USA
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 11:44 am to
I haven't seen Trump fail since he started this...it won't start now. You give out a lot of negativity.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 11:44 am to
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thanks alex jones!!!!!!


Alex Jones was wrapped around Trump's crotch like nobody else.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 11:45 am to
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perhaps all of you will complete your awakening.



The awakening happened last night.


I disagree. People are so pissed they latched onto an establishment cuck who told them what they wanted to hear.
Posted by Xenophon
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Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 11:46 am to
TxTiger is the opposite of negative. He's an eternal optimist. He's just highly skeptical.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 11:47 am to
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the establishment gets its way, whether by the Republican candidate or the Democratic candidate.


The names of the "Winners and losers" will change with each successive change in administration. TRUMP is appealing because the "winners" will not be either of the typical cast of characters that usually share power successively.

There is no CABAL. People make assessments, back candidates, fight for votes (it's a gamble). Trumps backers were fewer and less well connected than most. That gives me HOPE for some real CHANGE.

SWIDT?
This post was edited on 11/9/16 at 11:48 am
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 11:48 am to
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You sound like Alex jones
Then you aren't listening to me or to him. Alex Jones was wrapped around Trump's crotch from the jump.

I couldn't have been more opposed (to either candidate).
Posted by lsucoonass
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 11:49 am to
Yeah he was in his jock a lot.

So does trump become the puppet now?
Posted by DerkaDerka
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 11:49 am to
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Now, Republicans are the majority in D.C. There are no excuses. When nothing changes - no wall, no immigration reform, no reversal of Obamacare, continued war for profit, etc.; when nothing changes, perhaps all of you will complete your awakening.


This is a welcomed opportunity. No way to obfuscate. Either something happens or not.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 11:50 am to
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I believed those in power wanted Hillary as President.

They did. Do you now think otherwise?
I believed that the elite wanted Hillary and hand-picked Trump because he was the only opponent she could beat.

What if it was just the opposite?
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 11:50 am to
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TX Tiger


Usually, the major parties gobble up "outside" candidates in exchange for their backing and help in winning.

In my estimation, TRUMP gobbled up the Republican party, as evidenced by the defection of the many old guard establishment players from his campaign. I hope I am right and he is able to hold on to his principles when dealing with the Congress. There is hope my friend.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 11:51 am to
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But I don't believe for one minute that Donald Trump is anti-establishment.

Trump is as establishment as Hillary.
Why am I not shocked? Trump kicked his way through the ruling establishment while breaking all of the establishments "rules."

Your paranoia knows no limit.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 11:52 am to
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That's the great thing about TX. The ACTUAL conspiracy gets exposed, and he's gotta be convinced that it's nothing but window dressing to the REAL REAL one.
Huh? Nothing changed; I just read their intentions wrong.
If you have a different view, please explain.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 11:52 am to
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I believed that the elite wanted Hillary and hand-picked Trump because he was the only opponent she could beat. What if it was just the opposite


NOBODY is that smart. And follow the money. Look how much Hillary raised versus TRUMP.

HE WAS NOT THE ESTABLISHMNET CHOICE. PERIOD.

Now, will he sell out, that is a vlid question.

Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 11:55 am to
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I desperately want to believe that Trump won this because the people mandated it. But I've seen too much and experienced too much to know better.



I hope, for my children's sake, that we are both wrong again.

And I'll be the first to buy you an adult beverage or three to celebrate.
Exactly. I would gladly buy everyone on this board an adult beverage or five, to be wrong about government corruption and crony capitalism.
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
7877 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 11:55 am to
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When nothing changes under Trump, maybe that happens.




But when it does, will you be here getting another mouthful of crow? How can you call him establishment when he has only been it politics for 18 months?
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 11:56 am to
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Steel beams don't melt and neither does TX Tiger
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