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re: Update from Big Ben's place
Posted on 11/25/20 at 10:12 am to GREENHEAD22
Posted on 11/25/20 at 10:12 am to GREENHEAD22
I abhor high fenced hunting but respect a landowner’s right to do it. There is a guy up around Alexandria, for whom I have great respect, that does the high fence thing RIGHT. No importing deer, and unceasing habitat management, with a focus on soil health. He’s on YouTube — Farm and Ranch Life. Some videos are from his ranch in Mexico, too.
This post was edited on 11/25/20 at 10:14 am
Posted on 11/25/20 at 10:25 am to The Torch
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If you could afford it would you be against fencing, especially in Louisiana ?
Damn straight.
I would go buy a piece of land with landowner tags and know I'm a hunter instead of a candy arse.
Posted on 11/25/20 at 11:32 am to The Torch
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If you could afford it would you be against fencing, especially in Louisiana ?
i wouldnt High fence. maybe low fence as a hog deterrent/controls
Posted on 11/25/20 at 12:35 pm to Ol boy
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I’m not against him having a pen but it is what it is and acting like a 170in deer in that pen that died is something on par with finding a deer that caliber in wild is no where near the same
Depends on whether that deer is also being used to make money. You have to separate the difference between business and pleasure.
Posted on 11/25/20 at 12:44 pm to turkish
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I abhor high fenced hunting but respect a landowner’s right to do it. There is a guy up around Alexandria, for whom I have great respect, that does the high fence thing RIGHT. No importing deer, and unceasing habitat management, with a focus on soil health. He’s on YouTube — Farm and Ranch Life. Some videos are from his ranch in Mexico, too
This. I believe there is a tremendous amount of misunderstanding surrounding high fence operations. First, I know some high fence operators who really don't care what is taking place inside the fence. In other words, they don't manage it at all. They simply shoot what's in there and then bring in new animals as needed.
The majority of high fence guys I know though work very hard at trying to keep the habitat and the herd healthy. They do everything possible to keep the number of deer inside the fence at a number where the habitat can support it. They do this instead of just simply bringing in thousands of pounds of supplemental feed.
Lastly, I can tell you that I've hunted both types of high fence areas. Not with a gun, but with a video camera. I've hunted the the Legacy Ranch in Michigan (1,000 acre fenced pastures),where you could see a dozen deer over 150 inches in a morning, and I've hunted small 600 acre high fence areas in Mississippi where it took most of the day to see a buck.
As hard as it is for most people to believe, when the area in managed correctly numbers wise, it is very difficult to kill a mature buck. Imagine a 5 year old buck that's been raised inside a 600 acre enclosure. There isn't a stand, food plot or tree in there that he isn't familiar with. That's a very hard buck to kill with a bow.
This post was edited on 11/25/20 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 11/26/20 at 6:39 am to turkish
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There is a guy up around Alexandria, for whom I have great respect, that does the high fence thing RIGHT. No importing deer, and unceasing habitat management, with a focus on soil health.
It’s amazing what natural genetics can produce with unlimited food and age. That guys place proves there is no bad genetics only poor nutrition.
My biggest beef with high fence is not what happens inside the fence, but how it hurts everyone around them. It blocks the natural movement of game and everyone bordering them has worse hunting. In the US, the public “owns” the wildlife so why can people trap public game for their own use.
Posted on 11/26/20 at 7:18 am to geauxbrown
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Imagine a 5 year old buck that's been raised inside a 600 acre enclosure. There isn't a stand, food plot or tree in there that he isn't familiar with. That's a very hard buck to kill with a bow
Only if you want it to be hard. You can have them be as wild or as tame as you want.
I also respect someone's right to do it, but its no different than shooting cattle. I dont see how anyone could brag about killing a big deer in a fence beyond the way you brag about having a good bull in your herd.
Posted on 11/26/20 at 8:42 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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I dont see how anyone could brag about killing a big deer in a fence beyond the way you brag about having a good bull in your herd.
You could hunt them with a crossbow in a wifebeater and flipflops. That’d be pretty tight.
Posted on 11/26/20 at 9:09 am to geauxbrown
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Depends on whether that deer is also being used to make money. You have to separate the difference between business and pleasure
If I had someone willing to pay me 10k to shoot a (deer, cow, elk,giraffe) that was tied up with a rope I would let him shoot it.
That being said I would not have a pen and shoot my own (deer,cow,elk,giraffe)
I don’t get the whole I’m going to have a pen and shoot my deer thing but hey to each his own..
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