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Any drills work to eliminate a bad over the top swing?

Posted on 9/5/21 at 11:35 am
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
5550 posts
Posted on 9/5/21 at 11:35 am
I’ve been fighting this for 30+ years. Drives me nuts, proof, I’m asking this board for golf advice.



Seriously, any tip would be greatly appreciated. I have been known to experiment during a round also. Thanks in advance.
Posted by dpd901
South Louisiana
Member since Apr 2011
7505 posts
Posted on 9/5/21 at 11:58 am to
“Reverse your loop”… I can almost guarantee you’re jerking the club to the inside on your takeaway and are probably across the line at the top. (Clubhead pointing to the right of the target line). Instead. take it back down the line or even outside, then try to make a big counterclockwise loop (assuming you’re right handed) with the clubhead. It should feel like your hands are dropping lower and closer to your body at the the start of the transition. Watch down the line videos of Sergio and Lee Trevino to see the extreme of what yours shoukd look like/what you should feel. Once you groove that, then you can try to match Rory’s takeaway and transition.
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
Member since Aug 2007
16411 posts
Posted on 9/5/21 at 12:55 pm to
Towel
Under right arm
Bury right elbow in side
This post was edited on 9/5/21 at 12:56 pm
Posted by The Johnny Lawrence
Member since Sep 2016
2162 posts
Posted on 9/5/21 at 1:14 pm to
Vijay Singh 's water bottle drill
Posted by Hou_Lawyer
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2019
1865 posts
Posted on 9/5/21 at 1:55 pm to
Best advice I’ve ever seen in a golf book. Harvey Penick’s little red book.

“to start your downswing, let your weight shift to your left foot while bringing your right elbow back down to your body.”

Try to keep that right elbow as close as possible to your body on the downswing. This will promote in-out swing path.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15762 posts
Posted on 9/5/21 at 2:14 pm to
Orange whip helps with this.

Reversing loop is also a great idea.
Posted by reauxl tigers
Tiger Woods Fan
Member since Aug 2014
7934 posts
Posted on 9/5/21 at 4:26 pm to
Stick an alignment stick in the ground somewhere directly behind the ball or a little towards the inside of the ball, make an effort to strike the inside of the ball. If you ever played baseball, drive the ball to the opposite field
Posted by CFDoc
Member since Jan 2013
2093 posts
Posted on 9/5/21 at 4:52 pm to
I fight the same problem.

Take the club and put it in your left hand. Take the club in your left hand and stand it vertically on the ground in front of your right foot.

Then practice the downswing with only your right hand. Make sure to really feel the right hand passing inside the club still in your left hand.

Helps me every time and if I’m hitting it poorly I will do this before every shot.
Posted by SmelvinRat
Slumwoody
Member since Oct 2015
1387 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 7:00 am to
Swing the club like you're trying to move a runner to third base in baseball. Swing the club to right field. It's a simple drill that will get you to approach the ball from the inside.
Posted by BeaverPRO
Tampa
Member since Aug 2009
16250 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 9:58 am to
Take an old club
1. Take your adress & put your butt against a flat wall (pref. Brick if possible) your back pockets need to be against the wall not your front pockets
2. Take a SLOW backswing and trace the flat surface of the wall
3. SLOWLY drop your hands to let our clubhead trace the wall on the way down. If you club looses contact with the wall...START OVER
4. Stop your downswing half way and go back to the top of your backswing and repeat 4-5 times

Repeat process

Take a few practice swing away from the wall to mimick tracing the wall at a slightly faster speed

NOTE: BeaverPro does not take responsibility if you put a hole in your wall from trying to perform this drill too fast
This post was edited on 9/6/21 at 9:59 am
Posted by SamtheSham
In a greenside bunker
Member since Nov 2018
492 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

“to start your downswing, let your weight shift to your left foot


This all you need to know. Over the top is from early rotation of the shoulders at the start of the downswing while your weight is on the back side.
Reverse that sequence and you're in business. The weight shift will cause the club to drop into a flatter plane; trying to direct the arms on the downswing will work for a swing or two or a hole or too, but it doesn't address the root cause.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
34010 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 3:34 pm to
Pay for 5-6 lessons from a Professional. If your serious about improving your game, proper instruction is invaluable.
Posted by lsuwiseman
Frisco, TX
Member since Nov 2016
51 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 9:48 pm to
Best drill & super easier to do inside.

7:30 mark of the video

LINK

A lot of great content by Mike on YouTube
Posted by stormyhog
Arkansas
Member since Oct 2009
442 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 10:17 pm to
On downswing, think about pointing the butt of the club at the ball for as long as possible


Also when you follow through, take a step with your right foot toward your target like you are going to walk straight down the target line.
Posted by Zzyzx
Member since Nov 2018
1873 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 1:59 am to
Lay a baby, pet, or something really valuable just short right of the golf ball before you swing
Posted by Delacroix22
Member since Aug 2013
3947 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 10:15 am to
Like some other poster said trying to guide the arms is a band aid

You need the lower body to work correctly for the upper body to follow correctly. Clay Ballard has a good video on this.

A totslly upright spine or spine pointing to the target is the issue. Once you rotate from this position the ONLY thing your right shoulder can do is swing out and throw the club over the top.

You need the spine to be slightly tilted away from the target when you start your transition. How you do this is get pressure to lead foot. People argue whether there is a lateral slide of the hips or not to get this started. My belief is there ALWAYS is a lateral slide. It just differs on how much.

When you move the hips correctly the spine tilts away from the target and allows the right shoulder to work under the plane. This promotes good contact and shaft lean and all the good stuff.

Imagine if you tried to kick a field goal or a soccer ball. You jog up to the ball, plant your foot and your spine isn’t straight up or tilted toward the goal as you kick at the ball. Spine tilted away because your hips aren’t directly under your spine they’re a little ahead.
This post was edited on 9/7/21 at 11:28 am
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 11:13 am to
quote:

Like some other poster said trying to guide the arms is a band aid You need the lower body to work correctly for the upper body to follow correctly. Clay Ballard has a good video on this. A totslly upright spine or spine pointing to the target is the issue. Once you rotate from this position the ONLY thing your right shoulder can do is swing out and throw the club over the top. You need the spine to be slightly tilted away from the target when you start your transition. How you do this is get pressure to lead foot. People argue whether there is a lateral slide of the hips or not to get this started. My belief is there ALWAYS is a lateral slide. It just differs on how much. When you move the hips correctly the spine tilts away from the target and allows the right shoulder to work under the plane. This promotes good contact and shaft lean and all the good stuff. Imagine if you tried to kick a field goal or a soccer ball. You jog up to the. All and your spine isn’t straight up or tilted toward the goal. It’s tilted away because your hips aren’t directly under your spine they’re a little ahead.


This is the correct idea.

You want to feel like when you start your downswing you are taking and uppercut with your right arm. This will get your spine tilt away from the target.

When your spine is tilting away from the target and your weight is shifting forward then there is no way for you to go over the top or early extend.
Posted by Circle G
Member since Dec 2020
392 posts
Posted on 9/9/21 at 5:22 pm to
To shallow your plane, try teeing up a 7 iron relatively high, i.e. a couple of inches, and pick it cleanly off the tee. If you hit or break the tee, your angle of attack is too steep. This will promote a more rounded swing plane.

This drill is great for learning to hit a draw and may help to eliminate your over the top move that can bleed over into other clubs in the bag once you get the feel for it.

It's a little ghetto, but I zip tie my phone to an alignment stick stuck a few inches in the ground and use the Zepp golf swing analyzer app to record swings to get a better idea of what adjustments I need to make.
Posted by Mr. Blutarski
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Oct 2012
1756 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 9:23 am to
Find an area you can practice with the ball above your feet. It will help shallow your plane and it's almost impossible to come over the top with the ball above your feet.
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