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re: ALONE Season 8 Thread ****SPOLIERS INCLUDED****
Posted on 6/11/21 at 7:11 pm to dirtsandwich
Posted on 6/11/21 at 7:11 pm to dirtsandwich
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How has it taken 8 seasons for this? Very well done on his part. I’ve always wondered why people haven’t tried if.
I'm not 100% but I THINK a reason it has taken this long would be if previous season contestants were allowed to bring a spool with that much fishing line. I don't know previous season fishing line length limitations.
The plastic spool was the huge key for that fishing pole build.
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Posted on 6/11/21 at 8:18 pm to CU_Tigers4life
I've noticed no one is using a gill net this year. I wonder if it's a forbidden item this year. I know that many places don't allow use of these devices.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 10:15 pm to CU_Tigers4life
I'm a big fan of naked and afraid but this show is miles better. Love to see the different structures each person is building. I think that woman's pit is going to be good unless as said before rain gets in. I don't know if it's because of editing or not but so far I think only 2 fish have been caught.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 12:10 am to CU_Tigers4life
quote:
I've noticed no one is using a gill net this year. I wonder if it's a forbidden item this year.
I was wondering the same thing. However in the list of 10 items each contestant can choose is the following:
1 small-gauge gill net
I checked all of the season 8 contestant's list of 10 items and none of them chose a gill net. However without going back and rechecking, I think all of them (or almost all of them) chose 80 meters of paracord. I bet some of them make their own gill nets. They'd be crazy not to since they passed on the gill net.
This post was edited on 6/12/21 at 1:32 am
Posted on 6/12/21 at 1:47 am to 98eagle
Also, if I were on the show, I would choose the following 10 items:
1. Ferro Rod
2. Sleeping Bag
3. Bivy
4. Pot
5. Axe
6. Multi-tool
7. Gill Net
8. Snare wire
9. Bow & arrows
10. Fishing line and hooks
Nobody ever chooses the bivy. However with a waterproof bivy and sleeping bag you can always be dry and warmer than without that bivy especially with arctic cold weather creeping into your shelter. It keeps your sleeping bag dry also from day 1.
First off my list is the saw. I really really hate leaving it off, but I have the axe & multi-tool. The saw would be so helpful for fast cleaner straight cuts in shelter/furniture building, plus it is a backup and change of pace to the axe when cutting trees. I would pack mud, etc. into small cracks and less than straight cuts, plus I would design walls, doors and other features that don't require perfect clean cuts and more precise lengths. Also, to me the axe is more important than the saw. It has a blade that can be sharpened to some degree using a stone, plus it can be used like a hammer, knife and a weapon more so than a saw. The multi tool is just way too versatile to be off the list.
The paracord & tarp would be tough to pass up also, but I figure I could find vines for cordage and use some of the snare wire and/or fishing line in a pinch. After scoping out the best shelter site, I would want to set up a gill net immediately afterwards and start passively catching fish while I work on my shelter, so it trumps paracord to me. Paracord is more versatile than a gill net, but having that gill net being ready to go on day 1 is more critical in my opinion.
Concerning not picking the tarp, that area has plenty of straight trees of all sizes, so with the axe you can make a fairly tight shelter and pack any gaps with mud and moss and throw on lots of other brush like fir branches. Once it snows heavy, you can toss/pack that on the sides/roof of the shelter to make it even more air tight. Plus I have the bivy to keep me dry even if my shelter was wet inside to any degree.
1. Ferro Rod
2. Sleeping Bag
3. Bivy
4. Pot
5. Axe
6. Multi-tool
7. Gill Net
8. Snare wire
9. Bow & arrows
10. Fishing line and hooks
Nobody ever chooses the bivy. However with a waterproof bivy and sleeping bag you can always be dry and warmer than without that bivy especially with arctic cold weather creeping into your shelter. It keeps your sleeping bag dry also from day 1.
First off my list is the saw. I really really hate leaving it off, but I have the axe & multi-tool. The saw would be so helpful for fast cleaner straight cuts in shelter/furniture building, plus it is a backup and change of pace to the axe when cutting trees. I would pack mud, etc. into small cracks and less than straight cuts, plus I would design walls, doors and other features that don't require perfect clean cuts and more precise lengths. Also, to me the axe is more important than the saw. It has a blade that can be sharpened to some degree using a stone, plus it can be used like a hammer, knife and a weapon more so than a saw. The multi tool is just way too versatile to be off the list.
The paracord & tarp would be tough to pass up also, but I figure I could find vines for cordage and use some of the snare wire and/or fishing line in a pinch. After scoping out the best shelter site, I would want to set up a gill net immediately afterwards and start passively catching fish while I work on my shelter, so it trumps paracord to me. Paracord is more versatile than a gill net, but having that gill net being ready to go on day 1 is more critical in my opinion.
Concerning not picking the tarp, that area has plenty of straight trees of all sizes, so with the axe you can make a fairly tight shelter and pack any gaps with mud and moss and throw on lots of other brush like fir branches. Once it snows heavy, you can toss/pack that on the sides/roof of the shelter to make it even more air tight. Plus I have the bivy to keep me dry even if my shelter was wet inside to any degree.
This post was edited on 6/12/21 at 2:26 am
Posted on 6/12/21 at 6:24 am to 98eagle
I do not like Nate. He is kind of full of himself. Seems like a strong player though.
The pit house is awesome. I never understood why people don't go underground (other than the ground is too hard to dig?). But hers look great. Just doing the center pole was super impressive and she found a ton of grubs, which had to help a little.
I'd be a big novice (which I wish they would use more of). So I would definitely pick food. My list would go.
Paracord
Sleeping bag
Ferro rod
Pot
Slingshot
Fishing line
Multi-tool
Hatchet
2 lbs of pemmican
2 lbs of gorp
The pit house is awesome. I never understood why people don't go underground (other than the ground is too hard to dig?). But hers look great. Just doing the center pole was super impressive and she found a ton of grubs, which had to help a little.
I'd be a big novice (which I wish they would use more of). So I would definitely pick food. My list would go.
Paracord
Sleeping bag
Ferro rod
Pot
Slingshot
Fishing line
Multi-tool
Hatchet
2 lbs of pemmican
2 lbs of gorp
Posted on 6/12/21 at 9:31 am to 98eagle
I believe everyone gets one tarp that doesn’t count against your ten times. You can choose to bring a second one that’s does count against your ten.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:25 am to Cash
You also get a toothbrush. Thoight it was smart to turn half into a fishing lure also
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:35 am to CU_Tigers4life
quote:
I've noticed no one is using a gill net this year. I wonder if it's a forbidden item this year. I know that many places don't allow use of these devices.
I'm 1000% going gill net + fishing line as 2 of my items. Though I did notice 1 year a contestant used fishing line but made his own gill net from that line spool. So there's definitely a huge advantage with that skill.
I think another contestant managed to find a huge net on his shoreline & he untangled tnto make a gill net. That's a huge stroke of luck there.
After watching this season of Naked & Affraid XL (they're in the Basin), if I'm going on Alone = I'm learning g how to make that walking pier/dock to extend my length into the water while staying dry. Then I'm attaching my gill net to that structure so it's safe in place & easy to pull up + reset.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 12:15 pm to forever lsu30
quote:
After watching this season of Naked & Affraid XL (they're in the Basin), if I'm going on Alone = I'm learning g how to make that walking pier/dock to extend my length into the water while staying dry. Then I'm attaching my gill net to that structure so it's safe in place & easy to pull up + reset.
I'm watching N&A XL also. I thought they were nuts building the bridge but it's working.
The only drawback I can see is the lake's going to freeze over and the bridge and gill net has a short period of usage. But if you could get a functional dock up quickly and catch a lot of fish before the lake freezes then it would work.
I wonder how many of the Naked and Afraid people have the skills and the personality to handle an "Alone" challenge? I can think of maybe 5-8 people.
This post was edited on 6/12/21 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 6/12/21 at 12:47 pm to CU_Tigers4life
My thoughts on the gill net are that you start using it Day 1. Catch fish while you are working your arse off on the shelter and camp site. You spend so much energy in the first few weeks and you need plenty of fish. Once I got the net placed, while working on the shelter, in between working hard, my breaks would include setting snares and gathering food (berries, mushrooms, etc) plus carry the bow with me to shoot at any animals.
Eventually as the shelter is coming along, sprinkle in some fishing with the fishing line and hooks as part of any breaks from shelter building. The gill net and snares are working passively 24 x 7.
Once the lake freezes, the axe is a necessity for drinking water and fishing.
No way I am not including all 4 of the primary hunting and fishing tools (gill net, fishing line/hooks, snare wire, and bow & arrows).
If the tarp is included not counting against the 10 items, I'll use it temporarily on the shelter until I get it waterproof enough without the tarp. As soon as possible, I'm building a water trough to fit the size of the tarp and it will be located near the front door of the shelter. If it rains you'll save a lot of energy having water right there at the shelter before the snow starts. Keep it clean and you can drink the rain water without having to boil it.
Once the lake freezes, I'm building grouse/ptarmigan/bird traps with that gill net and fishing line by effectively building a "noose carpet" to entangle the bird's feet. I would try this technique in a flat area that I could see and maintain from the front view of the shelter. Basically, a bunch of small nooses are created from the fishing line and attached/spread out on the gill net which is laying on the ground stretched out by a frame made of limbs. Berries are scattered over the net area. The birds walk around pecking the berries and can get their feet/legs caught in one of the nooses. You'd have to maintain it sweeping off snow and repositioning/resetting some of the nooses. In hard snows or if there was excessive snow build up, I'd pull it up and move it in the shelter until I could use it again.
Eventually as the shelter is coming along, sprinkle in some fishing with the fishing line and hooks as part of any breaks from shelter building. The gill net and snares are working passively 24 x 7.
Once the lake freezes, the axe is a necessity for drinking water and fishing.
No way I am not including all 4 of the primary hunting and fishing tools (gill net, fishing line/hooks, snare wire, and bow & arrows).
If the tarp is included not counting against the 10 items, I'll use it temporarily on the shelter until I get it waterproof enough without the tarp. As soon as possible, I'm building a water trough to fit the size of the tarp and it will be located near the front door of the shelter. If it rains you'll save a lot of energy having water right there at the shelter before the snow starts. Keep it clean and you can drink the rain water without having to boil it.
Once the lake freezes, I'm building grouse/ptarmigan/bird traps with that gill net and fishing line by effectively building a "noose carpet" to entangle the bird's feet. I would try this technique in a flat area that I could see and maintain from the front view of the shelter. Basically, a bunch of small nooses are created from the fishing line and attached/spread out on the gill net which is laying on the ground stretched out by a frame made of limbs. Berries are scattered over the net area. The birds walk around pecking the berries and can get their feet/legs caught in one of the nooses. You'd have to maintain it sweeping off snow and repositioning/resetting some of the nooses. In hard snows or if there was excessive snow build up, I'd pull it up and move it in the shelter until I could use it again.
This post was edited on 6/12/21 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 6/14/21 at 10:42 am to 98eagle
The gill net would definitely by nice to have, but i don't see it as being that important considering you might get to use it for a few weeks, and you can make your own with the paracord.
If you want to win, you have to kill something big with the bow. simple as that. If you don't kill something big, then you're just waiting until your body will eventually tell you it can't go anymore and you're forced to tap out. Spend your time setting snares, do some fishing throughout the day when you need a break from shelter building early on. Once you get your shelter up, then start hunting. Shelter building should be priority #1. Once you get that up, and at least to a point where you're protected well enough from rain, then you should really just be looking for food 75% of the day, with the other 25% gathering wood and finalizing the shelter. Fishing is always something you can do when you need a break.
There's grouse everywhere up there, and grouse are incredibly stupid. You can get within 20 yards of them very easily. We kill a few every time we go to Colorado elk hunting. They should all be able to kill one almost daily if you're walking a good bit and you're actively looking for them.
I do'nt know if they are allowed to shoot a bear or not, but if they can, they should. There seems to be more than enough of them.
My 10 would be (a tarp is given and not counted toward the 10):
80m Paracord
Sleeping bag
large pot
ferro rod
300yd fishing line and 70 hooks
bow and arrows
snare wire
hatchet/ax (not a small hatchet, but not a full ax)
multi-tool (that i would customize myself)
saw
I'm torn between bringing a saw and leaving one of the knives out. Really need the multitool. I'd want the pliers on it, and if the knife is good enough on there for cleaning fish/grouse/hopefully big game, then you can leave the hunting knife off. I'd want one with tweezers on it too, as well as a fish scaler, a serrated knife, and probably a second main knife. There's no need for screw drivers like they all have.
bringing 2 lbs of food just seems completely worthless, same with the hygiene stuff.
If you want to win, you have to kill something big with the bow. simple as that. If you don't kill something big, then you're just waiting until your body will eventually tell you it can't go anymore and you're forced to tap out. Spend your time setting snares, do some fishing throughout the day when you need a break from shelter building early on. Once you get your shelter up, then start hunting. Shelter building should be priority #1. Once you get that up, and at least to a point where you're protected well enough from rain, then you should really just be looking for food 75% of the day, with the other 25% gathering wood and finalizing the shelter. Fishing is always something you can do when you need a break.
There's grouse everywhere up there, and grouse are incredibly stupid. You can get within 20 yards of them very easily. We kill a few every time we go to Colorado elk hunting. They should all be able to kill one almost daily if you're walking a good bit and you're actively looking for them.
I do'nt know if they are allowed to shoot a bear or not, but if they can, they should. There seems to be more than enough of them.
My 10 would be (a tarp is given and not counted toward the 10):
80m Paracord
Sleeping bag
large pot
ferro rod
300yd fishing line and 70 hooks
bow and arrows
snare wire
hatchet/ax (not a small hatchet, but not a full ax)
multi-tool (that i would customize myself)
saw
I'm torn between bringing a saw and leaving one of the knives out. Really need the multitool. I'd want the pliers on it, and if the knife is good enough on there for cleaning fish/grouse/hopefully big game, then you can leave the hunting knife off. I'd want one with tweezers on it too, as well as a fish scaler, a serrated knife, and probably a second main knife. There's no need for screw drivers like they all have.
bringing 2 lbs of food just seems completely worthless, same with the hygiene stuff.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 1:34 pm to TeddyPadillac
I heard an interview with Roland. He didn't come out and say it but it is obvious that he would be down for an All-Star season. The host made a comment that Jordan made the first big game kill on Alone and you made the second. This burned Roland up. In so many words he said he is the best survivalist of the past 100 years.
All in all, he came off exactly how I expected.
All in all, he came off exactly how I expected.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 1:54 pm to TeddyPadillac
After watching all seasons of Alone and listening to everyone here, I think I would go all in on shelter and quality fire place. In fact, I would probably build a rock fire place that can really hold in the heat and build my shelter around the fireplace. These are the 2 items that will burn the most calories so I would want to carry a good extra 20-25 pounds going in so I have the stores to burn.
For my 10 elective items that's been tough but I think this is the way I would go:
Rations: Hard Tack (2 pounds)
Fishing line and Hooks
Ferro Rod
Large Pot
Multitool
Saw
Ax
Paracord
Bow and Arrow
Tarp
I'm giving up snare wire for paracord, but I think it's more useful. Hard tack taste like blaaaaa, but it's low maintenance and offers carbs/sugars and you don't have to cook it. I want as much energy as possible to build a solid shelter that can handle the winter.
I would find/cut down the longest pole I could and set up a series of fishing lines to drop in the water so I can set and forget while I work on the shelter. Hopefully I can get it set up in such a way where I can burn fewer calories later when it gets cold.
For my 10 elective items that's been tough but I think this is the way I would go:
Rations: Hard Tack (2 pounds)
Fishing line and Hooks
Ferro Rod
Large Pot
Multitool
Saw
Ax
Paracord
Bow and Arrow
Tarp
I'm giving up snare wire for paracord, but I think it's more useful. Hard tack taste like blaaaaa, but it's low maintenance and offers carbs/sugars and you don't have to cook it. I want as much energy as possible to build a solid shelter that can handle the winter.
I would find/cut down the longest pole I could and set up a series of fishing lines to drop in the water so I can set and forget while I work on the shelter. Hopefully I can get it set up in such a way where I can burn fewer calories later when it gets cold.
This post was edited on 6/16/21 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 6/17/21 at 4:11 pm to CU_Tigers4life
Bumping the thread. EP3 Comes on tonight
Posted on 6/17/21 at 6:09 pm to 98eagle
quote:
4. Pot
How much?
Posted on 6/18/21 at 12:17 am to CaptSpaulding
quote:
4. Pot
How much?
The Pot weighs 2 lbs. It should last you the whole season.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 6:30 am to CU_Tigers4life
EP 3 didn't give up a lot. No taps although Michelle looks like she's getting close. She's already thin as a rail and is already getting sick.
Michelle's bear encounter was intense. That would probably make me consider tapping.
Biko's stupidity with be his downfall. Swimming alone for 1/2 mile in a very cold lake to find nothing was very foolish. Of course, his carrying a lot of weight to burn.
I don't see this series going much past 60 days because it doesn't appear from the editing that anyone is landing big food scores. The lake seems too choppy to fish on and may have to wait until it freezes over to have better fishing success.
Michelle's bear encounter was intense. That would probably make me consider tapping.
Biko's stupidity with be his downfall. Swimming alone for 1/2 mile in a very cold lake to find nothing was very foolish. Of course, his carrying a lot of weight to burn.
I don't see this series going much past 60 days because it doesn't appear from the editing that anyone is landing big food scores. The lake seems too choppy to fish on and may have to wait until it freezes over to have better fishing success.
This post was edited on 6/18/21 at 6:32 am
Posted on 6/22/21 at 1:01 pm to 9Fiddy
quote:
I know the guy had a heart attack but I have my suspicions about the 35% heart capacity.
It’s more likely they told him his ejection fraction was 35%. Normal ejection fraction is 55-70%
This! Nobody's heart is near 100%!
And since they really didn't talk with him about his heart condition in his interview, I think it's very likely that he had a panic attack instead of a heart attack. Panic attacks can completely mimic a heart attack and I think he really didn't want to say he just freaked out and tapped. That's what I think really happened. He was beginning his freak out about food almost as soon as he was dropped.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 7:29 pm to CU_Tigers4life
Bump for Episode 4
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