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re: Carnival July Cruises out of Galveston to require passengers to be fully vaxed

Posted on 6/9/21 at 9:12 am to
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37104 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 9:12 am to
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Do you lock your door at night? Why? Your risk of getting burglarized is low. Do you wear your seatbelt? Why?



Many of the people I know who aren't getting vaccinated, are the same kind that won't lock their doors (if someone comes in, I'll just shoot them!) and don't wear seatbelts.

I know someone that will, when getting in the car, will buckle in the seat belt, and then sit on TOP of it.
Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
Member since Jul 2013
24514 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 1:03 pm to
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but what about passing it to others more vulnerable?


Not my responsibility.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37104 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:11 pm to
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Not my responsibility.


Correct. You have every right to be selfish and not care about others!
Posted by cbtullis
Atlanta
Member since Apr 2004
6257 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 5:23 pm to
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Correct. You have every right to be selfish and not care about others!

I can not stand this argument!
That’s like saying, “since 80 percent of the 1 percent die are people over the age of 60, how about we just limit passengers to 59 and under”
Or “hey you should get the vaccine cause the side effects are so rare”
Well the chance of extreme symptoms and/or death is just as rare from the actual “disease”

This can be argued over and over by both sides. But it’s this simple.....if you are vaccinated you should not worry about people being unvaccinated
Also you have every right to stay in your home and not go anywhere at all.
This post was edited on 6/9/21 at 5:24 pm
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
17854 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 7:08 pm to
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Or “hey you should get the vaccine cause the side effects are so rare”
Well the chance of extreme symptoms and/or death is just as rare from the actual “disease”


No. Over 1 in every 570 Americans has died of COVID. And, no, they didn't die "with COVID." The overall death rate for Americans was 16% higher in the last year. COVID killed 500,000 Americans.

In contrast, the vaccines have killed two or three Americans total -- out over 300 millions doses given.

You are really, really, really bad at math.
Posted by cbtullis
Atlanta
Member since Apr 2004
6257 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 7:38 pm to
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Over 1 in every 570 Americans has died of COVID.


Ok.....now divide 1/570
.0018 of Americans have died with Covid
I think I’ll still choose to live my life and not in fear of a disease with that number. Sorry if that upsets or offends you
This post was edited on 6/9/21 at 7:39 pm
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
17854 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 11:00 pm to
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live my life and not in fear


Lol. You are scared of a vaccine. I am the one not living in fear. You are a poor citizen and are either too afraid of needles or afraid of crazy, stupid conspiracy theories to do something that would not only protect your own life and health, but would protect others and jumpstart the economy.

Your life is totally controlled by fear.
Posted by cbtullis
Atlanta
Member since Apr 2004
6257 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 7:53 am to
Again….why put the unknown in my body
Especially something that is just authorized for EUA
I’ve had covid….my body handled it just fine. We have immune systems for a reason.
Not a conspiracy theorist. It’s just reality.
You or anyone else does t have enough information or time to tell me there isn’t any long term effects
That’s just the facts. Plain and simple
Each individual has a choice and the people who push others to get vaccines are the same pushing for “we are all in this together”
Too bad that’s not reality
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:02 am to
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Well the chance of extreme symptoms and/or death is just as rare from the actual “disease”




It's actually substantially higher, but don't let that get in the way of your ignorance.
Posted by cbtullis
Atlanta
Member since Apr 2004
6257 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:53 am to
Ok…..I get it
I’m going on a cruise unvaccinated and some of you are emotional about it.
Sorry….I’ll live my life. Have a wonderful day
Posted by MLU
Member since Feb 2017
1677 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:00 am to
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Cleveland Clinic Study Shows No Benefit From Vaccine For Those Who Previously Had COVID, No Need to Vaccinate Those With Antibodies
That's not at all what the non-peer-reviewed study of 52238 people says.
Posted by MLU
Member since Feb 2017
1677 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:03 am to
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Same exact reasoning can be said on the low risk for problems from covid.
You got your shot right? So why are you so concerned if other get theirs?

1) The vaccine doesn't make you immune. It just lowers the risk of severity. There are still unpleasant things that can occur other than death.

2) It can still be spread to others who have not been vaccinated, increasing their risk of death.

3) Herd immunity is accomplished only if the vast majority of people get the vaccine.

I'll never understand why so many people are afraid of getting a vaccine after getting vaccines their entire lives...
Posted by MLU
Member since Feb 2017
1677 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:05 am to
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This can be argued over and over by both sides. But it’s this simple.....if you are vaccinated you should not worry about people being unvaccinated. Also you have every right to stay in your home and not go anywhere at all.

We also have the right to refuse interaction and services to people who are unvaccinated.
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
6024 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 12:05 pm to
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This will be a HIPPA nightmare for all involved


No it isn’t. A cruise line isn’t a healthcare facility or a place that provides healthcare. Where HIPAA laws actually apply.

Quit mentioning HIPAA when you clearly are clueless about it


Exactly! People constantly say HIPAA (see what I did there) nightmare, when they are clueless.

This isn't a healthcare provider releasing info to someone without your permission. I get so tired of people throwing out HIPPA, when if they knew anything about it, they'd at the very least say HIPAA!
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