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re: Ian Desmond of the Colorado Rockies opts out of 2021 MLB Season

Posted on 2/21/21 at 3:41 pm to
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 2/21/21 at 3:41 pm to
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How come half black dudes always get to play the race card even when they look white? I feel like if you marry/ date white women you give up the black card


The word you are looking for is privilege.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/21/21 at 4:26 pm to
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citing racism in baseball and society,
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 2/21/21 at 4:34 pm to
42% of all MLB rosters are made up of minorities


Like MLB is one of the most diverse sports out there
Posted by diremustang
Member since Oct 2017
2287 posts
Posted on 2/21/21 at 4:58 pm to
I'm guessing he'll be kind enough to not opt out next year and let the rockies pick up his $2M buy out.

And why do so many of these guys come from upper class neighborhoods and have aggressively white wives? jack Flaherty is the wokest dude is baseball, and he looks white, went to private school and has a white wife and white mistresses.
This post was edited on 2/21/21 at 6:07 pm
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
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Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 2/21/21 at 5:45 pm to
He's an idiot. He'll be able to get the vaccine in April. He can socially distance and wear a 3M mask during spring training.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:04 am to
Also it’s fricked up how patty mahomes gets lumped in as a “black qb” his dad was a black dude that played baseball, he grew up in an upper class neighborhood and all his friends are white. That dude ain’t no brotha
Posted by lsufball19
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:48 am to
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I can respect this. He's making an actual sacrifice for his principles.

What are his principles here? There’s racism in society so he quit his job? Not a whole lot of logic in that
Posted by Tigear
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Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 10:20 am to
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42% of all MLB rosters are made up of minorities

Like MLB is one of the most diverse sports out there



AND the MLB just moved to accept all Negro Baseball League stats + records under MLB all-time records.

I could be wrong, but I believe that's called inclusion. Not racism.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25529 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 12:55 pm to
His statement prior to last season actually seemed to be thought out quite well. He mentioned that the opportunity for youngsters to get into baseball is becoming more economically driven. He mentioned the travel ball takeover, and how that impacts the local youth league scene. It seems to be squeezing out poor kids.

He also mentioned how his HS baseball team randomly did a ‘white power’ cheer before each game...which is pretty damn weird, but whatever.

He tied in the youth baseball situation to schools, and the unequal opportunities presented within.

I can’t stand The Movement, but his reasons seem pretty sensible. MLB mentions declining participation of AA in the sport, but doesn’t do much about it. The NBA is cornering that demographic.
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 1:09 pm to
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What are his principles here? There’s racism in society so he quit his job? Not a whole lot of logic in that



his principles are he is washed up and he is an attention whore so he makes a big public pronouncement when he wasnt going to be a factor for the Rockies this season anyway
Posted by Cliff Booth
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 1:31 pm to
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I believe what we call this is retiring.



Yeah, he's 35. 25 yo Ian Desmond is not doing any of this. Congrats on the attention, Ian.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 1:45 pm to
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MLB mentions declining participation of AA in the sport, but doesn’t do much about it.


What, exactly, should MLB do about it? And, WHY exactly, should MLB do anything about it? I love when people dictate to others what those others should do with their money.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25529 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 2:16 pm to
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I love when people dictate to others what those others should do with their money.


I’m not dictating anything. MLB is the one that has issue with it. That’s why they’re the ones responsible for dealing with financing any project.

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What, exactly, should MLB do about it? And, WHY exactly, should MLB do anything about it?


Who knows? That’s for them to decide. I do think entities as large as the MLB that generate that sort of cash flow should help finance the rebuilding of their own sport. After all, it’s in their best interests. That’s why there are baseball academies in Latin America. There’s plenty of talent in inner-city USA, but that talent consistently opts for football or basketball. In the CTE-football era, baseball can cash in an opportunity to attract said talent.

I know players and teams have funded some leagues, but that’s obviously not enough. It’s going to take coaches and “boots on the ground” to get the ball rolling. The days of Little League dominance are gone. Expensive baseball simply won’t attract kids from Chicago, NYC, etc.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 3:29 pm to
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Desmond opted out of the 2020 season as well, citing racism in baseball


Ah yes. The sport where a kid from Cuba or Venezuela that grew up playing with rocks and tree branches can make more money in a year than every poster in this thread combined. I'm sure we would all like to opt out from work and spend more time with our families, but there's the whole nuisance aspect of not making 70 million USD over the last 5 years.

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and his experience as a biracial person in America


Derrick Jeter had it tough too. Maybe you're just a dick, Ian. Outside of Canada, this is the most inclusive country on earth. Sounds like Ian needs to travel more.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 4:16 pm to
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I can’t stand The Movement, but his reasons seem pretty sensible. MLB mentions declining participation of AA in the sport, but doesn’t do much about it.
what? MLB has invested millions and millions of dollars in inner city programs trying to get AA kids to play baseball. However, in baseball there is not the instant success as in football and just because you are good in high school doesn't mean you are going pro.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25529 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 5:24 pm to
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what? MLB has invested millions and millions of dollars in inner city programs trying to get AA kids to play baseball. However, in baseball there is not the instant success as in football and just because you are good in high school doesn't mean you are going pro.


You are right. I shouldn’t have said they don’t do much about it. The problem is, what they’re doing hasn’t worked as well as they would like.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
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Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 2/23/21 at 6:33 am to
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do think entities as large as the MLB that generate that sort of cash flow should help finance the rebuilding of their own sport. After all, it’s in their best interests.


Listened to an interview with Andre Dawson the other day and he is in that role with the Cubs, that being the role of generating interest in baseball within the black community.

And he thinks MLB is doing plenty in this regard and said so even though the folks interviewing in the podcast were nearly begging him to say the opposite.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 7:37 am to
There is only so much MLB can do, they have more AA participation in the youth level and high school but not in the majors. Mainly because those kids that talented are also talented in other sports which is where they end up devoting all of their time.
Look at LSU and how many kids play both sports, but notice they all play baseball less because football is priority #1.
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