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DISRUPTIVE: when did this word mean both “troublesome” and “innovative” ?

Posted on 11/26/20 at 1:40 pm
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
29512 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 1:40 pm
My kid got a reminder in his notebook from school that his class has been “disruptive” and asking parents to remind their kids to not talk so much during class.

The same week I’m reading lots of articles on LinkedIn talking how disruptive companies and their disruptive technologies are revolutionizing how we work and how their innovative thinking will increase all these efficiencies... blah blah blah.


Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 1:46 pm to
Wow. Words can have more than one meaning? That’s sick, cool, and dank.
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
29512 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 1:50 pm to
Damn near opposite meanings in this case. I am in my mid-40s and I have always known the word disruptive to mean troublesome and/or bothersome.

When did you hear it used to describe the complete opposite?

Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160104 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 1:57 pm to
discipline your kid
Posted by AlonsoWDC
Memphis, where it ain't Ten-a-Key
Member since Aug 2014
8765 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 1:59 pm to
Ever heard of a contranym before?
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
8375 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 2:01 pm to
What happens on LinkedIn and what happens in reality are two different things baw.
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
30395 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 2:16 pm to
quote:

disruptive companies and their disruptive technologies are revolutionizing how we work and how their innovative thinking will increase all these efficiencies


Not to be political,but it just sounds like some left-wing drivel that indirectly makes riots and looting OK.

Disruption is usually thought of as a negative.

I personally use the word disruptive on a regular basis when describing a defensive football player's film. It's when a guy is in the other team's backfield, making tackles for losses, causing bad throws, or just causing general chaos . I'm describing how an offense sees him.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22427 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 2:53 pm to
It means the same thing. It’s just not a trait that’s conducive to a classroom of 30 kids and one teacher.

Lots of innovative, creative people were problematic students for the overall goal of a classroom.
Posted by Waldorf
Member since Aug 2020
256 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 3:05 pm to
quote:

What happens on LinkedIn and what happens in reality are two different things


I think I read that on Twitter.
Posted by PillPusher
Gulf Coast
Member since Oct 2009
5711 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 3:20 pm to
You can “disrupt” a class by talking too much. You can “disrupt” an industry by shaking up how things are normally done. It’s not that complicated.
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
29512 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 5:51 pm to
He’s the exception. Straight A student and plays travel baseball year round...textbook Jaxxon or Brayden.

Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 5:56 pm to
disruptive isn't a perfect synonym for innovative though.

In the positive context, it would mean altering a certain business sector so while innovative also causing a major shift at the same time. Something can be innovative without being disruptive if it propagates the same thought process whereas an innovation which shifts to a completely new process would be disruptive to that sector.
This post was edited on 11/26/20 at 5:57 pm
Posted by BorrisMart
La
Member since Jul 2020
8812 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 7:27 pm to
I've been seeing it used as "innovative" a lot more in law review articles and various online business/tech/finance articles, as opposed to older ones. I know what you mean. I think it is probably just indicative of the previous decade's hyper-evolving technology and information shift which is only happening faster with time. Thus, "changes" are occuring and literally "disrupting" the status quo of the particular sector/system. Probably always been a thing but it does seem to be experiencing much more prevalent use than I recall, at least in academic scholarship; however it is still a correct use of the word since it is still "disruptive."
Posted by Koach K
Member since Nov 2016
4084 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 8:58 pm to
When wearing turtlenecks and talking in an NPR haughty voice became the rage.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
37069 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 11:56 pm to
quote:

technologies are revolutionizing how we work and how their innovative thinking
You mean Jabberwocky?
Posted by MikeyFL
Las Vegas, NV
Member since Sep 2010
9593 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 1:02 am to
Disruptive innovation became a "thing" in Silicon Valley due to Clayton Christensen and his "disruptive innovation" theory. According to his theory, many innovative technologies and ideas that are initially expensive and difficult to use are overlooked by incumbent technologies. However, over time, they become cheaper, easier, and more effective. As a result, they can disrupt entire industries.

A good example would be the way in which personal computers displaced typewriters. Similarly, some have argued that Netflix disrupted the movie industry. The problem with disruptive innovation theory is that it's too often used as a predictive tool, and a lot of successful products get disrupted prematurely by paranoia.
This post was edited on 11/27/20 at 1:03 am
Posted by M. A. Ryland
silver spring, MD
Member since Dec 2005
2050 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 6:55 am to
It is really 1 meaning applied to 2 different contexts.

Disrupt: to break apart, throw into disorder, interrupt the normal course.

To disrupt a classroom by talking out of turn is quite troublesome.
Introducing an important new technology can disrupt an industry.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39302 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 8:13 am to
It does not mean innovative. However, innovative technology can also be disruptive.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19520 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 8:24 am to

The tech industry started using “disruptive” to describe things that shook up an industry sector, usually for the better, in the last couple decades.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
10418 posts
Posted on 11/27/20 at 8:28 am to
"Disruptive innovation" as a business concept became popularized in the late 90s. Before that, "disruption" in business generally was meant to refer to external shocks.
This post was edited on 11/27/20 at 8:31 am
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