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If you spend 30 years in jail for murder, what are the odds you get convicted again?
Posted on 7/30/20 at 10:57 am
Posted on 7/30/20 at 10:57 am
Recent sentencing out of LC - McClain gets life in 2018 murder
shitty situation entirely. but this is what caught my eye about the story:
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A 59-year-old Texas man was sentenced to life in prison Monday by Judge Ron Ware in state district court after being convicted of first-degree murder in February.
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Authorities have said DeVille left the Isle of Capri Casino in Westlake and discovered McLain in the parking lot attempting to burglarize vehicles.
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McLain hit DeVille in the back of the head with a wrench, causing a skull fracture; another defendant, Kenneth Williams, allegedly shot him. Williams was to be tried separately.
shitty situation entirely. but this is what caught my eye about the story:
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Authorities said McClain was on parole at the time of DeVille's death for crimes he committed, including murder, when he was 16. He served 30 years of a 50-year sentence with the Texas Department of Corrections.
Posted on 7/30/20 at 10:58 am to SlowFlowPro
Sleep well, Texas parole board
Posted on 7/30/20 at 10:59 am to SlowFlowPro
Another life lost due to a limp wrist parole board
Posted on 7/30/20 at 11:00 am to SlowFlowPro
Statistically, the odds are staggeringly slim.
Yeah, yeah, tell that to the victim's family, etc.
Yeah, yeah, tell that to the victim's family, etc.
Posted on 7/30/20 at 11:00 am to SlowFlowPro
Much higher if you kill two people than if you don’t actually kill two people
Posted on 7/30/20 at 11:01 am to SlowFlowPro
I didn’t read the article so idk what his charge was but premeditated murder should carry life no parole. Idc if you’re 15.
Posted on 7/30/20 at 11:01 am to Joshjrn
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Statistically, the odds are staggeringly slim.
yeah if you avoid a life sentence or the death penalty you're already extremely lucky...but those two WITH an original sentence that allows you to get out before you're elderly? that's gotta be incredibly rare in its own right
Posted on 7/30/20 at 11:06 am to SlowFlowPro
I lost all hope/respect for our justice system when I learned that George Floyd served only 5 years for Armed Robbery/Home Invasion and it was his second or third violent felony. Knowing that I have a former friend from high school, who had no priors, who committed the same crime and got a 75 year sentence, kind of puts the whole system in question.
Posted on 7/30/20 at 11:08 am to SlowFlowPro
Texas don’t play around with things like this. The rest of the country should take notice......
Posted on 7/30/20 at 11:10 am to Joshjrn
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Statistically, the odds are staggeringly slim.
Yeah, yeah, tell that to the victim's family, etc.
Right. And there honestly hasn't been a lot of research done on correlation between length of sentence and recidivism. The studies that have been done have been for serious, federal offenses and they've shown long sentences typically result in reduced recidivism. But they're pretty narrow and don't account for a lot of variables.
Posted on 7/30/20 at 11:11 am to BluegrassBelle
i imagine recidivism will be very high for people who were likely imprisoned from ages 16 to probably 50 or so
how do you live anywhere close to a normal life after that?
how do you live anywhere close to a normal life after that?
Posted on 7/30/20 at 11:11 am to LegendInMyMind
You shut your whore mouth.
George Floyd will be on the US $20 bill after Biden gets elected
George Floyd will be on the US $20 bill after Biden gets elected
Posted on 7/30/20 at 11:11 am to td01241
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premeditated murder should carry life no parole. Idc if you’re 15.
why such a soft sentence? eye for an eye at the minimum imo.
Posted on 7/30/20 at 11:16 am to dukke v
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Texas don’t play around with things like this. The rest of the country should take notice......
Texas let this man out after serving 60% of his sentence.
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Authorities said McClain was on parole at the time of DeVille's death for crimes he committed, including murder, when he was 16. He served 30 years of a 50-year sentence with the Texas Department of Corrections.
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i imagine recidivism will be very high for people who were likely imprisoned from ages 16 to probably 50 or so
how do you live anywhere close to a normal life after that?
Without a doubt, especially on the younger side. A kid/young adult whose mind isn’t fully developed thrown into a dangerous prison where he is likely the weakest and easiest target. Once he adapts in order to protect himself, I would imagine is nearly impossible to then readjust to normal life.
So many stories of guys getting out and couldn’t adapt so they fell back into crime or willingly jumped back into crime so they could get back to where they felt “home” was.
Posted on 7/30/20 at 11:18 am to SlowFlowPro
Here in Davidson county, if you are found guilty of 1st degree murder as a juvenile you’ll be out walking the streets in a decade. A juvenile can commit armed robbery and get a smack on the wrist.
Posted on 7/30/20 at 11:23 am to SlowFlowPro
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i imagine recidivism will be very high for people who were likely imprisoned from ages 16 to probably 50 or so
how do you live anywhere close to a normal life after that?
One of the more extensive studies I read (from Washington state I believe) basically said it’s really complex and offender-specific. You have to account for support system when coming out, type of offense, facility where they served (and those conditions), whether sentencing was justified, history of other crime committed before major offense, etc.
I imagine the guy who was possibly wrongly convicted with a support system coming out has a better chance of reduced recidivism then the career criminal who escalated with none coming out. But there’s just not much study wise to go on.
Posted on 7/30/20 at 11:32 am to LegendInMyMind
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I lost all hope/respect for our justice system
Your first problem is that you think we have a central “justice system”.
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