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Thinking about buying a franchise

Posted on 2/8/20 at 7:34 pm
Posted by Ramblin Wreck
Member since Aug 2011
3898 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 7:34 pm
One of the guys in my real estate LLC is interested in starting some type of business. Figured it might be a good opportunity to expand our investments outside of real estate. We’d be willing for us to sell a piece of property and put about $500K towards something. I’m not interested in starting something extremely complicated or any type of restaurant. Any ideas of profitable franchises or businesses that we should look at? I know his first choice would be some type of gym, but it’s hard to find a lot of info on profitability and cost. I’ve also read some on places like UPS stores and Sports Clips. What says the money board?
Posted by Im4datigers
Northern Virginia
Member since Oct 2003
4465 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 8:17 pm to
Gym and profitable ????????
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 8:25 pm to
I use a UPS store as a business address and know the owner pretty well. He is at the store a large amount of time and has said he doesn't own the store, the store owns him. Most of the people I know that own franchises invest a lot of their own time in them.
Posted by Coomdaddy
KY
Member since Aug 2017
390 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 8:30 pm to
Go to church more and get a Chik-fil-A
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20483 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 7:16 am to
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Most of the people I know that own franchises invest a lot of their own time in them.


This...if there was easy franchises out there with good returns for new investors then big money would be into them.

I’d be very very careful here OP. I think most franchises are going to require either a lot of time from a dedicated owner or not return what they try and advertise they do.

Maybe expand into a new type of real estate investment?
Posted by soupboy10
Member since Feb 2016
71 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 8:44 am to
I am a business banker in Baton Rouge and have financed a few of these. Sports Clips and UPS stores are actually some of our preferred franchises as they do a lot to support their franchisees. We finance them through SBA loans with loan downpayments 10% or so.

Why not try to diversify your real estate holdings instead? What property types do you have today??
Posted by Dr.Funke
Not a real Doctor
Member since Dec 2011
642 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 8:49 am to
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I use a UPS store as a business address and know the owner pretty well. He is at the store a large amount of time and has said he doesn't own the store, the store owns him


I'd say this is only true around Christmas, and even then if you hire enough help it's not bad at all. My father owns a UPS store, last year he made around 140k and puts in maybe 40 hours a week. He could definitely work less if he wanted. Ups stores are going to start requiring owners to open on Sundays for a few hours soon though. I know of a lot of good owners with great stores that are selling because of it.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
42508 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 9:14 am to
Met with someone recently who owned a UPS store for a while. He said it's only profitable if you own multiple stores. And wayyyy too much managing/babysitting. If you hire a manager then all your profits are gone.
Posted by Ramblin Wreck
Member since Aug 2011
3898 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 12:39 pm to
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Why not try to diversify your real estate holdings instead? What property types do you have today??


One of the main reasons we are looking at it is that one of the partners wants to quit his day job and run a business full time. I don’t have any doubt he will put the effort into it and we’ve discussed buying a business anyways for a few years. We presently own retail and office space.
Posted by jclem11
Neoliberal Shill
Member since Nov 2011
7796 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 6:49 am to
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Gym and profitable ????????


It is rare but I have a gym client that prints money. It's been amazing to watch over the last few years and I do not their secret sauce.
Posted by Tigers4Lyfe
Member since Nov 2010
4499 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 2:49 pm to
Amazon is looking to start their own shipping company so if/when that happens UPS may not be so lucrative.
Posted by Parade Grounds
BR,LA
Member since Jun 2017
863 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 4:29 pm to
Quick service food isn’t too bad.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11485 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 4:38 pm to
quote:

Met with someone recently who owned a UPS store for a while. He said it's only profitable if you own multiple stores. And wayyyy too much managing/babysitting. If you hire a manager then all your profits are gone.


When I looked into buying a business, so many owner/operators wanted far too much for their business. I kept telling them "you are the business and you don't come with it when I buy it" But, they still wanted top dollar.
Posted by PimpDaddyHustleStack
Lowcountry
Member since Nov 2007
270 posts
Posted on 2/12/20 at 8:07 am to
Take a look at the salon suite concept.I own 3 in FL, A Suite Salons is the brand but there are a bunch of others. 2 do very well and one struggles. The one that steuggles is simply a bad location I let myself get talked into. These do pretty well as long as you locate them right.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 2/12/20 at 10:38 pm to
quote:

Go to church more and get a Chik-fil-A
I'd probably go with a place that can be open on Sundays if thinking fast food.


I'd also look around for an area that could use a storage facility
Posted by Rust Cohle
Baton rouge
Member since Mar 2014
1947 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 1:23 pm to
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We finance them through SBA loans with loan downpayments 10% or so.


Can you message me at Rustcohle365@gmail.com?
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 2/15/20 at 11:27 am to
Sunday is the worst day in the fast food business. There is nothing missing from the bottom line of CFA because they are closed on Sunday.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64059 posts
Posted on 2/15/20 at 4:28 pm to
In GA, all you need is a coleman 10x10 canopy, a church table, and a lawn chair to set up your own olive oil labeled "cbd" operation to make thousands off of idiots.

Today there was one by a twice the ice operation in front of a vape shop in Loganville on high traffic hwy 78, and I thought of you.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48990 posts
Posted on 2/15/20 at 6:26 pm to
quote:

One of the guys in my real estate LLC is interested in starting some type of business


Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
10436 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 9:26 pm to
I know a guy that owns a few of the disaster clean up franchises and he does well. Not sure if the name but they handle hardcore cleanups like methlabs and other bio hazard type stuff.
It’s not Servpro or service master.

I think his startup was fairly low too
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