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Public vs Police initiated arrests, who's to blame for racial disparity?

Posted on 11/14/19 at 3:00 pm
Posted by Kujo
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Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 11/14/19 at 3:00 pm
people in my locale are up in arms about the fact that police are arresting black citizens at 17 times the rate of white citizens. they are claiming that police are obviously targeting however I do not see any data as to how the arrests were initiated.

from my tertiary knowledge of law enforcement through watching reality TV shows it seems that most of the time police are responding to a complaint call made by the public. so if police are called to a scene and they witness something that is arrestable are they really targeting anyone?

I'm wondering if anybody has any information that can help me understand the issue better. thanks
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28060 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 3:08 pm to
excuses for their actions, it's all it is
Posted by TidenUP
Dauphin Island
Member since Apr 2011
14433 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 3:10 pm to
Police know where the trouble spots are in their patrol areas. Therefore, they patrol those areas more frequently. It's not so much "targeting" areas as much as it is being aware of the most problematic areas.

When I was on patrol, the problem areas changed a bit when the offshore workers came home from their shifts on the rigs. Domestic violence cranked up a bit when guys got home from a couple weeks offshore and things weren't kosher at home.

Same could be said when the first of the month rolled around in other areas.

Just sayin.
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
23311 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 3:10 pm to
It’s really simple. The police are making those poor black people commit crimes.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

people in my locale are up in arms about the fact that police are arresting black citizens at 17 times the rate of white citizens. they are claiming that police are obviously targeting however I do not see any data as to how the arrests were initiated.



My first question is in regards to that rate of 17x.

17x the rate of black citizens in the US population, or in that particular community?
Posted by Kino74
Denham springs
Member since Nov 2013
5344 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

people in my locale are up in arms about the fact that police are arresting black citizens at 17 times the rate of white citizens. they are claiming that police are obviously targeting however I do not see any data as to how the arrests were initiated.


Ask those same people if they live in a black neighborhood. Ask them if they don't, why don't they move there?

I'd even go as far as say those are the same people that complain about the high black on black crime rate.

This post was edited on 11/14/19 at 4:19 pm
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
21847 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 3:15 pm to
Democrat leaders and their ghettoization policies
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 3:17 pm to
quote:


My first question is in regards to that rate of 17x.

17x the rate of black citizens in the US population, or in that particular community?


Thank you ShortyRob. That's always a point that gets intentionally overlooked.

Similar to how how blacks commit 50% more violent crime. What that stat doesnt tell you is most of the crimes are REPEAT offenders.

I need to do more research, but it wouldn't surprise me if 3/4 of all violent crimes committed within black communities are the multiple offenders.

Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115896 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 3:18 pm to
Instead of saying "Commit less crimes"

They say "Stop arresting us for committing crimes"
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
6847 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 3:20 pm to
Someone created a prediction program to help identify potential trouble/high crime locations for cops to focus on. It was tremendously effective... subsequently determined to be racist, profiling, etc...and the program was abandoned.
Posted by TidenUP
Dauphin Island
Member since Apr 2011
14433 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

most of the crimes are REPEAT offenders.


And yet the laws that keep repeat offenders in jail after 3 or more convictions are labelled as racist and disproportionately affecting the black community.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79168 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 3:58 pm to
quote:

people in my locale are up in arms about the fact that police are arresting black citizens at 17 times the rate of white citizens


Do you live in the hood or something?
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17174 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

When I was on patrol,
but the op asked
quote:

seems that most of the time police are responding to a complaint call made by the public


So did most of your arrests come from responding to complaint calls made or from your own patrolling?
Posted by TidenUP
Dauphin Island
Member since Apr 2011
14433 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 4:13 pm to
Combination. Believe it or not, there are people in every community that can/will report things, whether they admit it publicly is another matter. My point was that the police aren't "targeting" areas as much as knowing that certain areas produce calls/incidents at higher rates. Proximity to a potential problem area cuts down response time.
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
7730 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 4:14 pm to
Prison industrial complex at work. Arrest young poor black men for cheap labor, profit.
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17174 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 4:22 pm to
quote:

Believe it or not, there are people in every community that can/will report things,
That is a good thing to hear!

Most of the stuff in the media is about how "the community" will NOT report crime as a main reason for crime infested hoods.

Of course like as usual with LeftProgFilth they move those goalposts when it comes to illegal aliens and claim policing those barrios will cause the residents to Not report crimes.

Left Media Logic: they don't report crime so enforcement will cause not reporting crime already not reported.

quote:

My point was that the police aren't "targeting" areas as much as knowing that certain areas produce calls/incidents at higher rates. Proximity to a potential problem area cuts down response time.
Therein lies the problem for the Left...solving problems rather than perpetuating and redefining.
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