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Real Life Examples of LA Amendment 3

Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:08 am
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
5063 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:08 am
How many of you have calculated the impact if Amendment 3 passes? I did a calculation for the company I work for. Based on about 1.5M of Federal taxable income, there would be a 31% increase in state taxes if passed. Would love to hear if there are any examples of a decrease in tax under the proposal.
Posted by Ford Frenzy
337 posts
Member since Aug 2010
6876 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:40 am to
if that amendment gets passed, the voting is surely rigged
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
5063 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:45 am to
If you read the PAR guide, it sounds like it's revenue neutral. I'm looking for 1 example of a taxpayer that will pay lower taxes.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 1:07 pm to
I'm voting no on all of the amendments except for the tuition amendment.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15043 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 1:43 pm to
These amendments are uniformly awfully written. What percentage of voters will even be able to parse this:

quote:

Do you support an amendment to provide that the manner of appointment for the registrar of voters in each parish is as provided by law and to require the qualifications of the registrar to be provided by law?


Much less know what a registrar does.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80187 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 1:45 pm to
#5 is the worst. I read it three times and still don't know what it said.
Posted by Coach Guidry
Member since Nov 2007
2333 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 4:18 pm to
Did a rough estimate for us...increase would be somewhere in the upper 30's.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37034 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 9:52 pm to
You would have to have a significantly different federal taxable income from LA taxable income (like because of use of NOLs or certain deductions).
Posted by b-rab2
N. Louisiana
Member since Dec 2005
12575 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 9:14 am to
I voted no for the tuition amendment.. I was on the fence about it though.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37034 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 9:55 am to
quote:

#5 is the worst. I read it three times and still don't know what it said.

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Number 5 creates a new constitutional dedication fund. Right now, mineral revenue over a certain amount goes into the rainy day fund. This amendment creates a lower amount, and the money that falls in between these two levels, would go into this new fund, which would be used to pay down the UAL and can be used for capital spending.

It also creates a threshold for corporate income tax revenue, and the amount over the level goes into the same fund.

If revenues were to be raised, it would force the state to save some of that money and/or pay down the UAL. However, it requires it to be spent in those ways. If there was a better way to spend the money, they would not be able to do so.

I generally favor giving the legislature more freedom over how to budget, as opposed to less.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37034 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 9:55 am to
quote:

I voted no for the tuition amendment..


I'm curious what your reasoning was.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17253 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 9:59 am to

quote:

I'm curious what your reasoning was


not sure of his, but I want it as hard as possible to raise tution
Posted by Brummy
Central, LA
Member since Oct 2009
4498 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 10:44 am to
Has anyone heard of any reason why this would be proposed as a constitutional amendment rather than a statute, other than the typical reason that the legislators don't want to risk taking a vote on anything? I'm not necessarily opposed to it in principle, but I really have a problem with setting the tax rate through a constitutional amendment.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37034 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 11:19 am to
quote:

but I want it as hard as possible to raise tution


Why is that? We still have one of the lowest tuition rates in the country, and it's obvious that the state won't be kicking in any more budget money to higher ed.

If you gave schools freedom, some would raise it, some would not, and honestly, some might have to raise it, find they can't, and shut down, which would be a good thing.

Also, 47 other states don't have this restriction, and pretty much all of them have better colleges than we do.
This post was edited on 11/8/16 at 11:20 am
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37034 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 11:23 am to
quote:

Has anyone heard of any reason why this would be proposed as a constitutional amendment rather than a statute, other than the typical reason that the legislators don't want to risk taking a vote on anything? I'm not necessarily opposed to it in principle, but I really have a problem with setting the tax rate through a constitutional amendment.


Currently, the constitution allows the federal tax deduction. So the only way to remove it is to amend the constitution. See the actual language here LINK

However, the tax RATE is not and will not be part of the constitution... that will still be in the revised statues.
Posted by Brummy
Central, LA
Member since Oct 2009
4498 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 11:40 am to
quote:

However, the tax RATE is not and will not be part of the constitution... that will still be in the revised statues.

Well, maybe I misunderstood it then. Where is the 6.5% referenced in the PAR report coming from?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37034 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 11:58 am to
quote:

Well, maybe I misunderstood it then. Where is the 6.5% referenced in the PAR report coming from?


It's confusing as hell, but Act 8 of the First 2016 Special amended the RS to put in the flat rate, however, that Act had a trigger in it that the Act 8 only becomes operative if the related amendment (Act 31) to the constitution passes.

ETA: Here is Act 8 LINK


This post was edited on 11/8/16 at 12:00 pm
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30730 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

but I want it as hard as possible to raise tution


Honestly, Id rather raise tuition and get rid of some of the worthless degress that cost a fortune and have no return.

Put some of these people in some tech schools or vocational training. They could make way more money and be a more productive member of society as a plumber or electrician than they would as an english major.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29286 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

Why is that?


Simple...incompetent leadership at LA Universities.
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
10290 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 2:31 pm to
I voted No for all the amendments.


I also vote No for every Brec or Public transportation amendment even if for renewal. It usually passes anyway but not because of my vote.

BREC gets WAY to much money now for what we get as a community and no reason for me to fund a public transportation system I never use. Let it fund itself and if it can't then so be it.
This post was edited on 11/8/16 at 2:32 pm
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