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Why don't teal like south central/ southeast LA marsh?
Posted on 9/12/16 at 11:42 am
Posted on 9/12/16 at 11:42 am
Can anyone give me some kind of explanation to this? On my lease in Dularge we have phenomenal big duck seasons (all we shoot is gray ducks and greenwings but i'll take whatever I can get) but as far as teal season we never have jack sh$t, while southwest LA seems to always be loaded down with birds this time of year, it seems like the only place those blue rockets like down this-a-way is Venice. Does anyone have any thoughts as to why those birds just don't come to us in September? Marsh looks great, weather is still too hot, but rode the entire area saturday and may have seen 40-50 birds. not enough to even think about hunting, and thats every year
Posted on 9/12/16 at 11:45 am to lbarfi1
Teal r generally very picky eaters. They tend to like vegetation in shallow ponds in rice fields and in fresh and brackish marshes more. Esp given the option. Doesnt mean they wont get in a salt marsh at all. But limited numbers of birds will congregate in the most desirable areas 1st.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 11:48 am to 4mileduckman
Also i have found in the past that some of my better teal shoots in salt marshes were from roosting Birds early in the morning. And that they weren't staying around to feed. So they tend to come into salt marsh and get shot out pretty quick. Like somebody saying the green wings were here the day after the front but now they're gone.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 11:51 am to 4mileduckman
Our marsh is more fresh than it is salty, we catch bass and bream on the lease now, which a few years back no way that was possible. Hopefully this north wind over the next few days will push a few down
Posted on 9/12/16 at 11:53 am to lbarfi1
I think it's just more desirable feed elsewhere. When the larger numbers get down here and start thinning the feed is when they start to spread out.
Just my guess
Just my guess
Posted on 9/12/16 at 12:15 pm to lbarfi1
I imagine because rice taste better
Posted on 9/12/16 at 12:17 pm to lbarfi1
We have had some good hunts on on our lease on coast during early season. But they never stay long, I think the BW just stage there before heading to mexico. What's also strange is we rarely kill GW's in our freshwater marshes and have yet to kill a BW down south in salt marsh during regular season. But every year starting in late feb we have thousands that roost across canal from camp.
ETA: I think the water level and the habitat they utilize during regular season plays a big factor. All our "teal holes" are covered with lilies right now.
ETA: I think the water level and the habitat they utilize during regular season plays a big factor. All our "teal holes" are covered with lilies right now.
This post was edited on 9/12/16 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 9/12/16 at 2:07 pm to CypressTrout10
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I imagine because rice taste better
This. BW Teal are pretty well going to feed in 2nd cut rice once they get to the coast. They will roost in the marsh and will return there after they feed, but if you are off the beaten path from a large area of rice production, you probably aren't going to get a ton of BW Teal.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 3:53 pm to lbarfi1
Cause the rice fields are full of food. Why pass that up to go to a marsh.
It's that simple
It's that simple
Posted on 9/12/16 at 4:48 pm to the LSUSaint
My thought is like everyone else, no rice fields nearby.
I gather Venice typically gets bwt though - is that mainly because it's at the end of the main artery of the flyway?
I gather Venice typically gets bwt though - is that mainly because it's at the end of the main artery of the flyway?
Posted on 9/12/16 at 9:27 pm to cbiscuit
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My thought is like everyone else, no rice fields nearb
South central has rice
But I basically mean any agriculture or flooded fields around
Posted on 9/13/16 at 6:01 am to the LSUSaint
In my opinion it all has to do with feed.
Teal love three corner grass, wild rice, rice, milfoil and such. In many of the saltwater marshes of the SE there isn't a lot of that your grass tends to be coon tail and occasionally some other varieties of submerged aquatics. This doesn't mean teal won't eat that stuff but it's not their preferred diet. Therefore they just pass through the area.
When they get to Venice there is all of that so they stay a little longer, and when they get to rice in the SW part of the state they stay even longer. Even in Venice the times are a changing, the submerged aquatics aren't what they were 10 years ago. As a result we still have lots of teal but not like it used to be, 15 years ago it was impossible to go teal hunting in Venice and not kill your limit with 2 people or 6 people it didn't matter. Now it takes the perfect conditions down there to have a great teal season.
The marsh and mother nature are just in a big flux and we have to do the best with what she give us.
Teal love three corner grass, wild rice, rice, milfoil and such. In many of the saltwater marshes of the SE there isn't a lot of that your grass tends to be coon tail and occasionally some other varieties of submerged aquatics. This doesn't mean teal won't eat that stuff but it's not their preferred diet. Therefore they just pass through the area.
When they get to Venice there is all of that so they stay a little longer, and when they get to rice in the SW part of the state they stay even longer. Even in Venice the times are a changing, the submerged aquatics aren't what they were 10 years ago. As a result we still have lots of teal but not like it used to be, 15 years ago it was impossible to go teal hunting in Venice and not kill your limit with 2 people or 6 people it didn't matter. Now it takes the perfect conditions down there to have a great teal season.
The marsh and mother nature are just in a big flux and we have to do the best with what she give us.
Posted on 9/13/16 at 6:01 am to lbarfi1
Outside of this year, lots of people in SELA have really good teal seasons. It's not rice field good, but plenty of birds get killed.
This post was edited on 9/13/16 at 6:05 am
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