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re: Had a Conversation with a Flat Earth Believer Today
Posted on 7/17/22 at 11:31 pm to Korkstand
Posted on 7/17/22 at 11:31 pm to Korkstand
I don’t personally share that opinion; but tend to see falsifiability as a barrier where purely philosophic inquiries begin and scientific inquiries end, in some respects.
but even within the realms of logic, I believe Godel’s incompleteness theorems in mathematics reveals at least one potential flaw in your opinion. If it is possible that true statements exist for which no proof can ever be produced, I’d probably argue this implies there exist plausible concepts for which no proof could ever exist.
but even within the realms of logic, I believe Godel’s incompleteness theorems in mathematics reveals at least one potential flaw in your opinion. If it is possible that true statements exist for which no proof can ever be produced, I’d probably argue this implies there exist plausible concepts for which no proof could ever exist.
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 11:47 pm to Gaggle
What do flat earthers believe matter is made up of ?
Posted on 7/17/22 at 11:55 pm to Ross
quote:I agree with that.
I don’t personally share that opinion; but tend to see falsifiability as a barrier where purely philosophic inquiries begin and scientific inquiries end, in some respects.
quote:I think of plausibility as a subjective estimate of probability. One could even assign a value to it as with probability. And while FE has a value of zero, I would say that the plausibility of literal heaven is undefined since no aspect of it can be measured or observed.
but even within the realms of logic, I believe Godel’s incompleteness theorems in mathematics reveals at least one potential flaw in your opinion. If it is possible that true statements exist for which no proof can ever be produced, I’d probably argue this implies there exist plausible concepts for which no proof could ever exist.
So I'll say that my initial statement of "more plausible" was not accurate because a value can't be compared to an undefined value.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:36 am to iPleadDaFif
Antarctica is a universally recognized no fly zone because the extraterrestrials have one of their main bases for points of departure and arrival there underneath the ice.
There are also undersea bases throughout the earth's oceans
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:50 am to Liberator
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Liberator
How much money do you donate to your church on an annual basis?
Posted on 7/18/22 at 1:46 am to pioneerbasketball
quote:Obviously, but for what purpose?
Propaganda
Posted on 7/18/22 at 4:51 am to Skippy1013
Flat Earthers sit from the perch of their narrow world experience and point of view and argue that the Earth is flat, with more ignorance and arrogance than experience and fact.
Try this, Flat Earthers:
Meet a seafarer and get their point of view on said flat Earth
Make a friend in southern hemisphere and have a discussion on June 21 or December 21 about how the Earth allocates heat on said flat Earth
Join a virtual call with cameras on, you in western hemisphere at sunset, and counterpart in Asia (say Singapore, Hong Kong, or Japan)...compasses if need them. Watch that sun settle in west and rise in east at same time.
Or, my fav, get in a plane and look for yourself.
Most importantly, epistemology! Look it up if not familiar. Then ask yourself how you developed your knowledge and labeled it as such.
Try this, Flat Earthers:
Meet a seafarer and get their point of view on said flat Earth
Make a friend in southern hemisphere and have a discussion on June 21 or December 21 about how the Earth allocates heat on said flat Earth
Join a virtual call with cameras on, you in western hemisphere at sunset, and counterpart in Asia (say Singapore, Hong Kong, or Japan)...compasses if need them. Watch that sun settle in west and rise in east at same time.
Or, my fav, get in a plane and look for yourself.
Most importantly, epistemology! Look it up if not familiar. Then ask yourself how you developed your knowledge and labeled it as such.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 8:54 am to Gaggle
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This post was edited on 7/18/22 at 8:58 am
Posted on 7/19/22 at 12:39 pm to Korkstand
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think of plausibility as a subjective estimate of probability. One could even assign a value to it as with probability. And while FE has a value of zero, I would say that the plausibility of literal heaven is undefined since no aspect of it can be measured or observed.
seems fair to me. Didn’t mean to derail the thread but that one comment did catch my eye.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 10:38 pm to CoyoteSong
The earth being around is long before the US Government.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 10:39 pm to Turf Taint
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Flat Earthers sit from the perch of their narrow world experience and point of view and argue that the Earth is flat, with more ignorance and arrogance than experience and fact.
You sound mad that the earth is flat.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 10:40 pm to LSUtiger89
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The earth being around is long before the US Government.
This is exactly what I've been trying to say all this time!
Posted on 7/20/22 at 10:42 pm to LSUtiger89
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The earth being around is long before the US Government.
I learned from Pastor Joel that Jesus founded America and then created the other countries that comprise Earth.
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