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Posted on 3/4/22 at 9:29 pm to
Posted by lsutiger2
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 9:29 pm to
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The rankings don't tell an accurate story when the judging is such a joke.

Plenty of lower-ranked teams (Cal, Kentucky, Alabama and even Missouri) have cleaner gymnastics than us.



Again what are you talking about? We only played those teams one time. Are you trying to say LSU is over scored every single meet? It must be a conspiracy.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 9:29 pm to
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Not sure if youre serious right now. They have been ranked below us all year. Now all of sudden they got great pointy toes?



Kentucky has been a very solid team all year and near the mid 197s often throughout the year.

This is the time of the year where really every gymnastics team should be putting out their best routines for the most part.
Posted by shaquilleoatmeal
Member since Jun 2021
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 9:30 pm to
Meanwhile both Auburn & Bama score 198+

LSU will probably be a 4 seed at SEC’s…yikes.
Posted by Bayougallc
Member since Mar 2018
750 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 9:33 pm to
I really thought our girls would be on fire tonight but knew from the first two events they were not on their high for the meet. I also see a change in Jay's demeanor which reflects an uncertainty going forward in this season. We have several events that are digressing. There is always hope for things to change.

Posted by lsutiger2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 9:33 pm to
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Kentucky has been a very solid team all year and near the mid 197s often throughout the year.

This is the time of the year where really every gymnastics team should be putting out their best routines for the most part.



Not saying Kentucky is not good. But with home scoring actually being a real thing(everyone involved in gymnastics acknowledges this) you cant say Kentucky was better tonight. I respect your opinion because you are a regular here. I have Kentucky have a better floor routine slightly. Thats it. LSU easily has more talent too.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67994 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 9:35 pm to
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Not saying Kentucky is not good. But with home scoring actually being a real thing(everyone involved in gymnastics acknowledges this) you cant say Kentucky was better tonight. I respect your opinion because you are a regular here. I have Kentucky have a better floor routine slightly. Thats it. LSU easily has more talent too.



Home scoring is a real thing, LSU has had it actually many times this year, not so much tonight.

I am more concerned with the big picture. A win or loss isnt going to change the fact that we have too many holes to address.
Posted by tlricks04
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 9:35 pm to
Agree 100%. It starts with Jay. I haven’t really cared for his demeanor lately, especially in his interviews.
Posted by russiangym
Member since Jan 2020
127 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 9:37 pm to
I wish Jay took a few more risks. Put AJ on bars. Put Aleah on bars. Try KJ and Dunne on beam. Try the 1.5s on vault. If it doesn't work, it doesn't, but at least you have tried to get the routine out there and build some experience. Instead we are going for safe and steady 9.8 routines with form errors.
Posted by Sofly225
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Member since Jan 2022
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 9:43 pm to
Talent and hitting when it counts is two different things. Kentucky won the meet. As much of a fan I have been of LSU for years and still will be win/lost, u compare teams. That’s what this sport is. My biggest concern is our coaching. Vault is not the same since Bob has retired. Bars is still a weakeness since Priesmann and Finnegan graduated. I feel like beam could be so much better but lineups are part of the issue. Gnat has done better this season but Jay is the head coach regardless of who is the primary coach on a certain event. Floor it looks like the have the routines, but no fire . It’s a long season and I wish Jay and the staff shouldn’t worry about the score against Utah next week. Let Kiya and Haleigh rest, use depth and move on. The good news is we aren’t consistently falling, we’re just consistently bland which won’t cut it.
Posted by shaquilleoatmeal
Member since Jun 2021
961 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 9:47 pm to
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There is always hope for things to change.

Not with Jay still in charge

Thank god for Haleigh & Kiya and few other routines. No idea where we’d be without them.
Posted by Sofly225
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2022
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 9:48 pm to
Russiangym! I’ve been saying this for weeks to put Aj and Aleah on bars because their form is far superior. Elena and Olivia have built in deductions that aren’t going away. Change Olivia dismount for everybody on the planet. Sami should have been out of beam after her second low score earlier in the season. Now you’ve waited until the end of the season and she has not gotten any better. It doesn’t matter how popular Olivia and Sami are but if the brand of LSU doesn’t stay in contention and see progressive routines to win championships, what are we here for?
This post was edited on 3/4/22 at 9:52 pm
Posted by SLIPSHITE
Doyline, LA
Member since Jul 2019
554 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 9:54 pm to
KJ should be in every event. Brock should be in the Vault line up. Nobody looked pleased with the total meet.

We get to post season we need the very best out there or it will be a short post season. And that’s a sham with the athletes we have on the team and not the floor.
Posted by LSUgymfan420
Member since Oct 2018
743 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 9:59 pm to
Ok. Here are my thoughts, I think Kentucky was the better team tonight (not in general, but tonight) (notwithstanding that beam debacle - that should have actually given the win, but we could have won it ourselves, which I’ll describe below). Kentucky was better for the following reasons:

Stuck bars dismounts
Not absolutely screwing up floor

However, here are a few ways we could have gotten the tenth backZ

1) anyone other than haleigh/Sami sticking their bar dismounts
2)any of the four people who made at least a tenth mistake on floor not making those mistakes
3)PUTTING ANYONE OTHER THAN SAMI IN THE BEAM LINEUP. I will never for the life of me understand why that was not the perfect opportunity to have KJ or anyone else at least try.

So, really, we could easily have been better than KEntucky tonight, but weren’t.

Why is that so troubling? It’s troubling because this team has been regressing since the Alabama meet. None of the lineups are near to post season ready. I echo the above poster who said vault is the most glaring - no way a team like this shouldn’t have more than 3 10.0 vaults - and can we even count edwards as one? She has been sub 9.8 a couple times this season. Bars, if Alyona doesn’t stick her dismount it is 9.8 or lower, and we all know the problems with Dunne and Arenas. Ironically our beam lineup is in the best place and I’ll give Ashley credit for improving that. But it is not competitive with auburn, Florida, Oklahoma, Michigan, or Utah. And finally, I thought we were hitting our stride with floor but clear regression there even with Haleigh. Some bright spots are generally Dunne and Finnegan.

This isn’t something I have mentioned before - but maybe the Mccools-Griffiths are not all they are cracked up to be?
This post was edited on 3/4/22 at 10:01 pm
Posted by Tigergymfan25
Member since Apr 2019
90 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 9:59 pm to
I would understand if Sami scores above 9.9 in her beam routine to have her in the lineup.. but she doesn’t. So why not develop someone else and put them in the line up.. it just makes no sense to me!
Posted by lsutiger2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
6297 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:04 pm to
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I would understand if Sami scores above 9.9 in her beam routine to have her in the lineup.. but she doesn’t. So why not develop someone else and put them in the line up.. it just makes no sense to me!



Sami in the beam lineup is obviously the biggest head scratcher. Surprised to not see Livvy get a shot because she has beautiful beam work.

But really think everyone is kind of being hard on this team. We are in great position despite losing out on two meets and dealing with some injuries. This is one of the more talented teams LSU has had. It just takes putting it all together in the postseason.
Posted by khill715
Sterlington
Member since May 2019
783 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:11 pm to
Just because their skill is higher does not mean they didn’t have the better meet tonight. Kentucky beat us. Their bars were better, their floor was better (Worley should have gotten higher than a 9.9). Their vault was never going to be better after the judges saw hayleigh do the front, all Kentucky’s dimmed in comparison. And honestly I thought overall their beam was too minus Josie and Jillian.

Olivia seems to be going backwards on bars. Kj doesn’t seem to be doing as well on floor. Aleah is hit or miss because of stupid passes. The only improvement I saw tonight was Elena getting better on bars and beam because she is actually getting competition time and edwards looked great on floor. Haleigh looked like she was in pain on floor, even though she did great. We have counted on her and kiya too much these last 2 years and it definitely shows.
Posted by Bayougallc
Member since Mar 2018
750 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:16 pm to
I grow weary hearing JC in interviews talking about how he doesn't believe in overloading freshmen when you see other teams using them on multiple events and even AA. He is stuck with the mindset of seniors FIRST in lieu of freshman and sophomores that could score as well if not better.

I am wondering how many routines do the girls actually perform during a week. Some of our floor routines are chaotic at times which leans toward the lack of repetition. All in all it is disturbing to see LSU in this position. We have always been a power house on this event...just saying something is not right.
This post was edited on 3/4/22 at 10:32 pm
Posted by lsutiger2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
6297 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:17 pm to
quote:

Their bars were better

slightly

quote:

their floor was better

agree

quote:

Their vault was never going to be better after the judges saw hayleigh do the front, all Kentucky’s dimmed in comparison

Agree, LSU vault was better

quote:

And honestly I thought overall their beam was too minus Josie and Jillian.


Not even close. LSU did great on beam minus Sami(who's score didnt count). Who else didnt do well on beam for LSU?
Posted by khill715
Sterlington
Member since May 2019
783 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:18 pm to
Yea, he also said earlier that he doesn’t believe that score building is thing anymore. I’m sorry what??? Of course it is!
Posted by khill715
Sterlington
Member since May 2019
783 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:20 pm to
Aleah’s dismount, Elena’s dismount, Bridgett is solid but always has leaps and firm issues. Christina dismount was kinda wonky.
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