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re: Are you smart? That's racist

Posted on 10/28/21 at 12:24 pm to
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 10/28/21 at 12:24 pm to
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You complain about alters yet ignore why they exist.


Well, you just admitted that you're an alter.

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alters when they only exist because the board bans people who aren't conservative.


Well, you just proved you're stupid which means you lied about your ACT score.

Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
15106 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 12:24 pm to
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GMON



Posted by GMON
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 10/28/21 at 12:29 pm to
Oh, I'm not too bothered about admitting I'm an alter. It doesn't matter to me - I'd get banned anyway for being liberal.

And I'm not lying about my ACT score. You realize that the universities with the highest ACT scores tend to be very Liberal.

Harvard's freshman class identifies as 80% Democrat and the median ACT there is 34.

This post was edited on 10/28/21 at 12:30 pm
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
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112799 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 12:31 pm to
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Harvard's freshman class identifies as 80% Democrat and the median ACT there is 34.


Yeah, the white/Asian ACT average there is 36. The black/Hispanic average is 28. Since it's a majority white/Asian you get the 34. You have no idea what you're talking about and you didn't get a 36 on your ACT.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
23229 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 12:32 pm to
Liberals and leftist are allowed to post here. If they weren’t losers like texdiddler would be banned. People get banned for being trash. Which I suspect was your case.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67546 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 12:32 pm to
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Are you smart? That's racist

Good...1 more thing that makes me racist
Posted by GMON
Member since Oct 2021
107 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 12:39 pm to
Are you retarded?

The median ACT at Harvard is 34.

That means half of the population at Harvard got a 34 or above regardless of race. It still doesn't change the point that Harvard's freshmen class leans overwhelmingly liberal.

That includes black people. Look at their admissions case - black peoples' SAT/ACT scores were not that much lower among the ones who were accepted. They were around 100 points lower on the SAT and a few points lower on the ACT.

LINK /

The average SAT score was 767 for each section for Asians who were admitted. For Blacks, it was around 704 per section. That's around 150 points in total lower.

Blacks scored an SAT score of 2100, which is around a 31. For Asians, it's around 2300 which is a score of 34. That's a 3 point difference, not the 6 point difference you claimed. For white people, the median score was 33 which is a 2 point difference. Nevertheless, I'm not sure how it's relevant to the point I was making which was that Harvard's freshmen class leans overwhelmingly liberal.

You've got no clue what you're on about. I'm almost certain you didn't study at a prestigious university.
This post was edited on 10/28/21 at 12:52 pm
Posted by GMON
Member since Oct 2021
107 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 12:54 pm to
I don't agree.

Nothing in my post history was 'trash.'

I made comments that were no less low quality than other people were making. Getting put in post quality review and then never being reviewed suggests to me that it was because I'm liberal.

Texdiddler has had his account for a long time. I didn't and was put in post quality review within a day of posting, which definitely points towards me being censored.



This post was edited on 10/28/21 at 12:55 pm
Posted by LockeNLoad
Omnipresent
Member since Oct 2021
235 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 12:54 pm to
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There are so many alters because the mods ban people who are liberal. You can't really complain about alters when they only exist because the board bans people who aren't conservative.
bullshite, name a few banned simply because of they are liberal.
Some are not even banned for actually BEING "liberal," but only for being perceived as more "liberal" than the Forum mainstream ... despite being right-of-center by any sane metric.

Locke
This post was edited on 10/28/21 at 1:18 pm
Posted by BradPitt
Where the wild things are
Member since Nov 2009
13389 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 1:14 pm to
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More retards = more Dims


The more ignorant society becomes = more votes for the democratic party.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112799 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 1:19 pm to
You're using SAT scores to say my ACT numbers are wrong, moron. The ACT is not required by Harvard. I used it because you started the ACT standard with your post.

The reason Harvard students lean left is because leftism is taught in HS. Ivy League schools lean more left because they select left leaning students through a giant emphasis of 'community service'.
IE,
'During HS I spent all my weekends helping tutor poor minority students in our homeless shelters. I introduced them to the classics and encouraged them to strive for social justice. This was all despite having no parents myself as my father abandoned us and my mother was killed by a white supremacist.'

This post was edited on 10/28/21 at 1:20 pm
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73558 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 1:20 pm to
Another alter shocker.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263364 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 1:21 pm to
The race to the bottom.
Posted by GMON
Member since Oct 2021
107 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 1:26 pm to
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You're using SAT scores to say my ACT numbers are wrong, moron. The ACT is not required by Harvard. I used it because you started the ACT standard with your post.


Harvard requires either the ACT or the SAT. Most candidates submit the SAT but there's no public data for the ACT that Harvard has released that breaks down scores by race.

They've not published median scores by race on the ACT. But on the SAT (which is what most candidates have submitted), the scores are fairly high for all races. You can convert them to an ACT score pretty easily - the median Black at Harvard got a 31-33, the average White at Harvard got a 33-34, and the median Asian got a 34-35.

Your point was idiotic - that the average Black at Harvard got a score of 28 on the ACT. That's fairly obviously not true - most people submitted the SAT but the scores were much higher among all races. Results will be similar for the ACT as well.

Considering 96% of test takers score under 2100, the median Black at Harvard still did better than 96% of test takers.

It still has nothing to do with my point though, which was that it's very possible to be liberal and have a high ACT score.

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. Ivy League schools lean more left because they select left leaning students through a giant emphasis of 'community service'.


Everyone does community service regardless of political lean. That's not what gets you into Harvard - you need to win academic awards or science olympiads, do research that wins awards, or have really extraordinary extracurricular activities. Tutoring homeless people doesn't get someone into Harvard. I can guarantee you that.

I tutored people in high school, had social justice activities (hundreds of hours of volunteering), had a perfect ACT score, valedictorian, and a few good extracurriculars (I attended a global summit in high school as a delegate and a few regional awards) and was rejected by most Ivy League schools. Doing community service by itself doesn't get one into Harvard.


This post was edited on 10/28/21 at 1:29 pm
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 10/28/21 at 1:28 pm to
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Are you smart? That's racist


Whew. Dodged that one
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112799 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 1:49 pm to
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It still has nothing to do with my point though, which was that it's very possible to be liberal and have a high ACT score.


When did I say it was not?

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Everyone does community service regardless of political lean.


Wrong. That's a modern requirement. When I graduated HS as a National Merit Scholar for community service I listed 'none'. I got 75 full tuition scholarships. I chose Centenary and graduated with honors.

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That's not what gets you into Harvard - you need to win academic awards or science olympiads, do research that wins awards, or have really extraordinary extracurricular activities.


Wrong. Lydia Jackson got a scholarship to Radcliff (female Harvard) and graduated from Law School despite winning no scholastic awards and having an ACT of 20. She was black, did community service and was the daughter of Alphonse Jackson, a professional civil rights activist.

This post was edited on 10/28/21 at 1:55 pm
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
23086 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 1:50 pm to
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I get the burn-it-down and tear-it-down mentality,


I don't understand it in the least bit.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
10643 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 1:54 pm to
It’s like the comment that blacks use when black kids study, read , do homework or otherwise make efforts to further their education- they’re said to be “acting white” as if only white people care about being smart or educated

Talk about self defeating
Posted by GMON
Member since Oct 2021
107 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 2:08 pm to
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When did I say it was not?


When you accused me of not having a high ACT score? You said it in response to me saying that I was liberal.

I had a perfect ACT and I'm not lying about that. I'm not sure why you'd think I was lying.

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Wrong. That's a modern requirement. When I graduated HS as a National Merit Scholar for community service I listed 'none'. I got 75 full tuition scholarships. I chose Centenary and graduated with honors.


You went to high school like 50 years ago. Life was completely different 50 years ago. It's a bit disingenuous to compare the 1960s/70s/80s to today. Everyone does community service these days - anyone who's applying to Harvard will have done community service.

We're talking about the present day. We're not talking about how they did things 50 years ago.

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Wrong. Lydia Jackson got a scholarship to Radcliff (female Harvard) and graduated from Law School despite winning no scholastic awards and having an ACT of 20. She was black, did community service and was the daughter of Alphonse Jackson, a professional civil rights activist.


Uh, look at their admissions documents in the lawsuit filed against them.

They effectively rank you on 4 things: academics, extracurriculars, sports and personal rating. There are around 1000 merit spots for people applying, the rest are taken up by athletes, kids of famous people, and legacies.

You have to have won regional awards to get a 2 or above on the extracurricular ranking. To get a 2 or 1 on the academic ranking, you have to have test scores above 33 on the ACT or a really high GPA. If you don't get a 2 or above on those two, you don't get accepted.

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Wrong. Lydia Jackson got a scholarship to Radcliff (female Harvard) and graduated from Law School despite winning no scholastic awards and having an ACT of 20. She was black, did community service and was the daughter of Alphonse Jackson, a professional civil rights activist.


Yes, you're comparing a woman who was born in the 1960s to today. She went to college 40 years ago - Radcliffe college was separate from Harvard when she went there (and their admissions requirements were much looser). Radcliffe merged with Harvard in 1998 and they became one institution. It wasn't the 'Female Harvard' until the 1990s.

So she went to a different college, had different admissions requirements, and most of all, it was 40 years ago.

Where does it say her ACT score? I can't find it. 40 years ago, scores were also different so it's a bit disingenuous to compare things today.

I literally linked you the average SAT scores by race and you're still trying to argue something you know nothing about (and you're bringing up things that happened 40 years ago and trying to say that the modern situation is the same thing). The average Black at Harvard scored 2100, the average White scored 2250 and the average Asian scored 2300.

A 2100 is still a pretty high score. While I'm annoyed that I was rejected as an Asian guy, test scores among those admitted were fairly high for all races. I know the admissions process pretty well as someone who was rejected, tried to transfer in, and still was rejected.







This post was edited on 10/28/21 at 2:10 pm
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
141659 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 2:12 pm to
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points towards me being censored.


Easy solution. Go back to DU.

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