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re: Kamala campaigning in VA; black churches WTF

Posted on 10/22/21 at 8:59 am to
Posted by tiger91
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Posted on 10/22/21 at 8:59 am to
Yes i heard a news report that the church should lose tax exempt status.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 10/22/21 at 10:10 am to
A church can't "lose" it's tax-exempt status because there was no process to grant one to begin with.

A church is completely outside the IRS enforcement system when it comes to income tax exemptions.

Many people do not want the IRS to wade into religion. So... this is the result.

This is another area where maybe the GOP, instead of whining, needs to do the same as the Democrats. I'm sure the media will crap bricks... but again... nothing the IRS can do.
Posted by Wednesday
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Posted on 10/22/21 at 10:48 am to
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Well, as tax exempt organizations they are not allowed to actively campaign or participate in political activities or they would run afoul of their tax exempt status...


That assessment would cut both ways. Again. Kamala Harris is awful. Black churches do a lot to help the Democrat Party. But plenty of other churches help out social conservatives as well.

There is a moral and religious component to all social spending and policy that cannot be separated.

Churches can and should be allowed to participate in politics and not stop being churches. I don’t want any branch of government- much less the freaking IRS determining the sincerity of someone’s religious beliefs.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 10/22/21 at 10:51 am to


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A federal appeals court has ruled that the Internal Revenue Service properly pulled the tax exemption of a New York church after it ran newspaper advertisements opposing Bill Clinton as a 1992 presidential candidate. Under the law, churches and charities must not participate in political campaigns in behalf of, or in opposition to, candidates for public office.


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This post was edited on 10/22/21 at 10:52 am
Posted by The Maj
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Posted on 10/22/21 at 10:55 am to
It most certainly can lose its tax exempt status….
Posted by L1C4
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Posted on 10/22/21 at 11:05 am to
Remember, that's how biden won in South Carolina.

James Clyburn talked to the black preachers in the state and told them to endorse biden.

If Republicans don't start bending rules like the dems it will be impossible for them to win.
Posted by Tigers2010a
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 10/22/21 at 11:15 am to
We should know by now the law is meaningless when it comes to democrats. However they find it very useful when it comes to prosecuting the right. No longer equal justice for all. We live in a brave new world.
Posted by troyt37
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Posted on 10/22/21 at 11:18 am to
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Why doesn't anyone care? Why are black churches not held to the same IRS standards?


White privilege, duh.

Why can leftist politicians, FBI agents and the director lie under oath to congress? Why can Hillary blatantly violate campaign, and national security laws with no consequences? Why can FBI agents blatantly lie to FISA court judges to obtain fraudulent search warrants, with no consequences? Why can the president of the United States lie under oath in a sexual harassment trial and face no consequences? Why can a president and attorney general violate gun laws with no consequences? How can the president and the IRS director target specific opposing groups, denying them their free speech rights without consequences?

It goes on and on. There is one set of laws for the ruling class (especially marxist democrats) and another far harsher and stringent set of laws for the peasant class. It's just another reason why it is so crazy that the ruling class is pushing things to the point of violence. You have to guess that they are relying on the fact that those who resist can be isolated and crushed the way they have done so many times before. I hope the patriots in this country have the stones to stand together once things cook off somewhere. It's the only way we will ever see a change in the tyranny.
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 10/22/21 at 1:07 pm to
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Been awhile back but some churches got into trouble for allowing flyers that just listed where the candidates stood on issues to be distributed in their Sunday morning bulletin... No mention of political party or how or who you should vote for, just where they stood on issues...




Yes


The most political I heard a Catholic Priest say on the altar was….

And I’m paraphrasing….


“Please pray that our leaders have the strength to make the proper decisions”

Posted by GhostOfFreedom
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Posted on 10/22/21 at 2:32 pm to
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 10/22/21 at 2:49 pm to
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The IRS cannot and should not, tax a church



I have mixed views and disagree with you some.

1). While I believe that Democrat Black churches have ignored the "rules" put into place by I think LBJ to stop churches from doing politics, I think all churches should tell the government to pound sand.

2). The churches shouldn't pay taxes, but I don't think preachers should have any tax exemption. Anything that makes you reliant on the government is a bad thing because the pressure the government can put on you to give or take away in order to get the results the government wants. Same goes for schools and colleges. They should be banned from taking Federal money.
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