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So where is the OSHA mandate?
Posted on 10/5/21 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 10/5/21 at 2:49 pm
Are they going to issue it or just use it to gaslight corporations?
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Posted on 10/5/21 at 2:56 pm to Strannix
gaslight corporations
Posted on 10/5/21 at 2:57 pm to Strannix
Like everything else in government.
Extortion.
Extortion.
Posted on 10/5/21 at 2:58 pm to Strannix
quote:
So where is the OSHA mandate?
There won't be one... Joe got exactly what he wanted out of the fake edict, companies to jump and implement out of fear.
He knows it would never stand up in court.
Posted on 10/5/21 at 3:00 pm to Strannix
What constitutes 'proof' of the vax?
Employee attestation?
The little card that anyone can print out?
Posted on 10/5/21 at 3:00 pm to Strannix
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So where is the OSHA mandate?
The only way this is enforceable is through legislation. They are trying to sneak this shite into the infrastructure bill.
Posted on 10/5/21 at 3:02 pm to Strannix
After their September 9 declaration of OSHA mandate for vaccination the White House has declared they know nothing about such a mandate actually becoming compliance regulation and the "some businesses" are mandating it...
There have never been bigger liars in US government ever...
Of course if you look at the supporters of ELECTION THEFT here on this forum, you can already tell what kind of lying trash these people are...
There have never been bigger liars in US government ever...
Of course if you look at the supporters of ELECTION THEFT here on this forum, you can already tell what kind of lying trash these people are...
This post was edited on 10/5/21 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 10/5/21 at 3:02 pm to Strannix
Can't legally mandate when the FDA approved vaccine is not currently available in the US.
The approved Pfizer Comirnaty vax is the same exact vax as the one approved under the EUA, however, the one under the EUA is the only one available to the people in the US. This is to skirt legal issues with liability.
So as long as Comirnaty, by label, is not being given to the US pop, there will be no OSHA mandate.
The approved Pfizer Comirnaty vax is the same exact vax as the one approved under the EUA, however, the one under the EUA is the only one available to the people in the US. This is to skirt legal issues with liability.
So as long as Comirnaty, by label, is not being given to the US pop, there will be no OSHA mandate.
Posted on 10/5/21 at 3:03 pm to Strannix
It came out last week that Biden hadn't even talked to OSHA... this shite show admin just came up with it on the fly
Posted on 10/5/21 at 3:04 pm to Strannix
Waiting for a Friday afternoon news dump to release it. Monday is Columbus Day, so no better time to let it out than right before all the govt leeches errr workers take off for a 3 day weekend.
Posted on 10/5/21 at 3:22 pm to Strannix
It was obvious by about day 4 that they realize they were gonna get their arse kicked on the OSHA thing and they just went dead silent on it.
And, of course, the media happily let them go silent on it.
And, of course, the media happily let them go silent on it.
Posted on 10/5/21 at 3:30 pm to Strannix
Total headfake.
Posted on 10/5/21 at 3:35 pm to Strannix
You already have to answer questions about the covid vaccine when applying for jobs. It doesn't matter if the mandate comes down or not. It worked.
Posted on 10/5/21 at 3:50 pm to Strannix
I can give you my 2 cents...
I am a Safety Manager by occupation, over 10 years of experience
A lot of experience dealing with OSHA, some with OSHA lawyers, and even have a few friends that are OSHA Reps
Legally, the mandate has no standing
OSHA's main purpose is the right to safe workplace
OSHA cannot regulate a safe workplace if 100% of the population isn't mandated.
Example 1: Fall Protection: By only saying companies with 100 employees have to get the shot, is like saying only companies with 100 people are require to wear fall protection at 6ft(1926) and 4ft(1910) You can't enforce the rule if not everyone is required to follow it
Example 2: Business (Retail): So say all Wal-Mart employees are required to get the shot because it employs over 100 people. Well, if I work for a company with less than 100 people and don't get the shot, then I go to Wal-Mart, by this "regulation", I just created an unsafe workplace for Wal-Mart employees....but I am not required to get the shot so I am not at fault.
It has to be 100% of the population or none (ie the 14th Amendment - Equal protection of the law)
But then again.... We are dealing with the administration that is constantly breaking the law
I am a Safety Manager by occupation, over 10 years of experience
A lot of experience dealing with OSHA, some with OSHA lawyers, and even have a few friends that are OSHA Reps
Legally, the mandate has no standing
OSHA's main purpose is the right to safe workplace
OSHA cannot regulate a safe workplace if 100% of the population isn't mandated.
Example 1: Fall Protection: By only saying companies with 100 employees have to get the shot, is like saying only companies with 100 people are require to wear fall protection at 6ft(1926) and 4ft(1910) You can't enforce the rule if not everyone is required to follow it
Example 2: Business (Retail): So say all Wal-Mart employees are required to get the shot because it employs over 100 people. Well, if I work for a company with less than 100 people and don't get the shot, then I go to Wal-Mart, by this "regulation", I just created an unsafe workplace for Wal-Mart employees....but I am not required to get the shot so I am not at fault.
It has to be 100% of the population or none (ie the 14th Amendment - Equal protection of the law)
But then again.... We are dealing with the administration that is constantly breaking the law
This post was edited on 10/5/21 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 10/5/21 at 4:27 pm to Strannix
Mandating that employers with over 100 employees require vaccines or testing of its employees is a violation of 14th Amendment’s Equal Protection Clause because it doesn’t apply to employees working at companies with 100 or less employees. In addition, exempting USPS workers, members of congress and their staff is also a violation of the clause.
The creation of an OSHA standard to force companies with >100 employees to comply with mandates will define workplace exposure to COVID-19 resulting in illness as a work-related illness and will result in workman’s comp claims and lawsuits.
For a company like Walmart whose employees will be compelled to abide by the mandates, what about the millions of customers that enter Walmart stores each day? Shouldn’t the Walmart employees be afforded the same “protection” from unvaccinated customers entering its stores? By not requiring that customers be vaccinated or have a negative test result, would Walmart not be guilty of creating a “workplace hazard” for its employees?
The creation of an OSHA standard to force companies with >100 employees to comply with mandates will define workplace exposure to COVID-19 resulting in illness as a work-related illness and will result in workman’s comp claims and lawsuits.
For a company like Walmart whose employees will be compelled to abide by the mandates, what about the millions of customers that enter Walmart stores each day? Shouldn’t the Walmart employees be afforded the same “protection” from unvaccinated customers entering its stores? By not requiring that customers be vaccinated or have a negative test result, would Walmart not be guilty of creating a “workplace hazard” for its employees?
Posted on 10/5/21 at 4:41 pm to Strannix
I’ll take gaslight for $200 Alex
Posted on 10/5/21 at 5:12 pm to Strannix
Many companies are going forward with it. Mostly government contractors because the government is amending current contacts, which is shite.
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