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Hurricane Preparations – Next time
Posted on 9/13/21 at 11:53 am
Posted on 9/13/21 at 11:53 am
A lot of us went through Ida in some form or fashion that required us to react with temporary utilities outages and house damage. Thankfully, we fared well on the damage side and didn’t have to make any repairs. Didn’t lose water but did lose power for 2 weeks. Our whole home generator had issues with lack of gas pressure to start but once we resolved that, it ran well. We used a portable generator in the meantime.
Looking around locally, trying to put a plan for next time that would be “sustainable” in that items I buy can be stored safely or used multiple times in the next 10-20-30 years. Now, next time won’t be the same as Ida, obviously, but we can look around at other areas and see what would have helped them. I’m also basing this on my house being intact with no major structural damage.
• For roof damage, I will plan to have on hand tarps, visqueen, rolled “ice and water shield” roofing underlayment (the sticky backed kind), 1x4’s to hold tarps down, fasteners, and duct tape. Plan to store any items susceptible to long term heat deterioration in an air-conditioned space. I figure with these items on hand, I can quickly mitigate any roof damage and prevent (or severely limit) water intrusion.
• For water, I’m contemplating getting one or two 275 gallon potable water totes. Can keep them empty, dry, clean, and sealed when not needed, fill them before a storm, are trailerable, drain and store again after storm. Could somehow connect to my house with a pump or use buckets.
• For power, in addition to my whole home, I want to wire in an interlock switch and a connection point to my house for a portable generator. I also want to get 3ea. 55 gallon drums for gasoline along with a hand transfer pump. Will keep them empty, dry, clean, and sealed when not needed, fill with gas for a storm, and either use gas for the generator if needed or transfer to my vehicles once it’s all over. Clean and seal again for future use.
• Also want to purchase 2 rolling ac units that we can have ready for use and move around inside my house if we’re on portable generator power.
• Extra generator oil, oil filters, and air filters on hand.
Thankfully, I have some space to store the large items listed. I figure for $2000-$3000 I can get all of these things together and staged. Don't have to get all at once, can build this kit a little each year.
Please critique and/or add to this list.
Looking around locally, trying to put a plan for next time that would be “sustainable” in that items I buy can be stored safely or used multiple times in the next 10-20-30 years. Now, next time won’t be the same as Ida, obviously, but we can look around at other areas and see what would have helped them. I’m also basing this on my house being intact with no major structural damage.
• For roof damage, I will plan to have on hand tarps, visqueen, rolled “ice and water shield” roofing underlayment (the sticky backed kind), 1x4’s to hold tarps down, fasteners, and duct tape. Plan to store any items susceptible to long term heat deterioration in an air-conditioned space. I figure with these items on hand, I can quickly mitigate any roof damage and prevent (or severely limit) water intrusion.
• For water, I’m contemplating getting one or two 275 gallon potable water totes. Can keep them empty, dry, clean, and sealed when not needed, fill them before a storm, are trailerable, drain and store again after storm. Could somehow connect to my house with a pump or use buckets.
• For power, in addition to my whole home, I want to wire in an interlock switch and a connection point to my house for a portable generator. I also want to get 3ea. 55 gallon drums for gasoline along with a hand transfer pump. Will keep them empty, dry, clean, and sealed when not needed, fill with gas for a storm, and either use gas for the generator if needed or transfer to my vehicles once it’s all over. Clean and seal again for future use.
• Also want to purchase 2 rolling ac units that we can have ready for use and move around inside my house if we’re on portable generator power.
• Extra generator oil, oil filters, and air filters on hand.
Thankfully, I have some space to store the large items listed. I figure for $2000-$3000 I can get all of these things together and staged. Don't have to get all at once, can build this kit a little each year.
Please critique and/or add to this list.
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Posted on 9/13/21 at 12:18 pm to poochie
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For roof damage, I will plan to have on hand tarps, visqueen, rolled “ice and water shield” roofing underlayment (the sticky backed kind), 1x4’s to hold tarps down, fasteners, and duct tape. Plan to store any items susceptible to long term heat deterioration in an air-conditioned space. I figure with these items on hand, I can quickly mitigate any roof damage and prevent (or severely limit) water intrusion.
Not a bad idea to have tarps and hardware on hand to mitigate any issues.
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For water, I’m contemplating getting one or two 275 gallon potable water totes. Can keep them empty, dry, clean, and sealed when not needed, fill them before a storm, are trailerable, drain and store again after storm. Could somehow connect to my house with a pump or use buckets.
What’s the purpose here? Are you using it for drinking water? Just for showers and toilets?
I like the idea, but if for drinking water I’m not sure how safe it would be over time. Plus prepping the storage tank, etc. If just for showers and toilets, maybe look at rainwater collection into these tanks as well. Could use for irrigation year round, and supplement for freshwater during a weather event. Drinking water could be provided by bottled/packaged water.
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For power, in addition to my whole home, I want to wire in an interlock switch and a connection point to my house for a portable generator.
Great idea and very affordable. This is what I have on my house and it was great.
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I also want to get 3ea. 55 gallon drums for gasoline along with a hand transfer pump. Will keep them empty, dry, clean, and sealed when not needed, fill with gas for a storm, and either use gas for the generator if needed or transfer to my vehicles once it’s all over. Clean and seal again for future use.
This is a a lot of fuel. They’d also need to be stored on a trailer if the plan is to bring them to a station and fill up. Unless you have an overhead hoist or forklift and can strap them to a pallet.
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Also want to purchase 2 rolling ac units that we can have ready for use and move around inside my house if we’re on portable generator power.
Why not window units? Much easier to store and do a great job of cooling.
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Extra generator oil, oil filters, and air filters on hand.
This should just be normal event prep. Don’t really need to keep a bunch of these long term.
If you wanted to provide for additional potential options (perhaps in lieu of the gasoline), you could have a propane storage tank installed. Have it filled well before the storm and use it to power the generator, burners, etc. If you’re not using it for anything else, this should be able to provide some significant use without degrading over time.
I’m also going to install a concrete pad near my generator inlet. This will allow me to run it on a level, impervious surface. Would also like to build some type of enclosure, but may just settle for a gentent or something similar
Posted on 9/13/21 at 2:01 pm to poochie
I wouldn't spend any effort staying in a Cat 4 or Cat 5 in Houma. GTFO.
Posted on 9/13/21 at 2:10 pm to poochie
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3ea. 55 gallon drums for gasoline along with a hand transfer pump. Will keep them empty, dry, clean, and sealed when not needed
Someone's gonna whoop your arse at the pump if you roll up to a station right before a hurricane.
Posted on 9/13/21 at 2:19 pm to poochie
Make certain you buy a pump that is for GASOLINE. Many diesel pumps are not acceptable, since gas is more explosive than diesel.
I use a hand pump at the farm for my nonE gas and it works well.
I use a hand pump at the farm for my nonE gas and it works well.
Posted on 9/13/21 at 2:21 pm to poochie
as someone that had close to 6 weeks without power after laura....frick that list. only one I would want is #1. other then that put in a cummins lng whole home and be done with it.
if I dont have water...im not staying.
do the above and then set aside a hurricane emergency fund that will allow you to go stay somewhere else for a month and work from home.
if I dont have water...im not staying.
do the above and then set aside a hurricane emergency fund that will allow you to go stay somewhere else for a month and work from home.
Posted on 9/13/21 at 3:09 pm to poochie
if you decide to buy roll around AC units, do not buy single hose units that cause negative air pressure in the room it is cooling
Posted on 9/13/21 at 7:39 pm to poochie
The only thing I'm getting for storm prep is a new house in another state. Screw this place.
Posted on 9/13/21 at 8:54 pm to poochie
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• For water, I’m contemplating getting one or two 275 gallon potable water totes. Can keep them empty, dry, clean, and sealed when not needed, fill them before a storm, are trailerable, drain and store again after storm. Could somehow connect to my house with a pump or use buckets.
Do you have your own water well and pump? If so, your generator should run it.
This post was edited on 9/13/21 at 8:56 pm
Posted on 9/13/21 at 10:15 pm to poochie
Get a diesel generator 150 gallons of gas is a BOMB with a very low flash point
Getting 150 home delivery is diesel is not crazy.
Getting 150 home delivery is diesel is not crazy.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:45 am to poochie
The problem I have as with “prepping” in general is deciding what exactly I’m prepping for, or where to draw the line. If it’s “worst case scenario” well then obviously it’s never ending and very time and money consuming. I think it’s good to delineate exactly what the threshold is and plan based on that. In most real-life examples, in all but the worst cases, there’s a decent timeline of 1-2 weeks for things to improve that could have a good effect on planning, like roads being cleared, reasonable access to gas and food/water, etc.
This didn’t seem to be the case in many/most areas after Katrina, where clearing roads and restoring power seemed to take much longer, but things seem to have improved (gasp*) in the years since, better line maintenance, better planning for clearing, even down to more people owning chainsaws to do some things themselves.
Point being, factoring that in, expected reasonable access to supplies, could be very relevant. Buying and storing less pre-storm specifically. And post storm, most people that stay behind don’t have much to do anyway, so punching out an hour or so to get supplies isn’t a huge inconvenience.
This didn’t seem to be the case in many/most areas after Katrina, where clearing roads and restoring power seemed to take much longer, but things seem to have improved (gasp*) in the years since, better line maintenance, better planning for clearing, even down to more people owning chainsaws to do some things themselves.
Point being, factoring that in, expected reasonable access to supplies, could be very relevant. Buying and storing less pre-storm specifically. And post storm, most people that stay behind don’t have much to do anyway, so punching out an hour or so to get supplies isn’t a huge inconvenience.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 12:21 pm to poochie
If you have the means this works. But I wouldn't worry with the potable water totes, it's probably easier to just buy and store 5-10 big jugs of water. If you don't have running water you really can't stay at your house after a storm.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 2:30 pm to poochie
I have two 55 gallon steel drums for gasoline with a hand pump. I fill them up during the month of May before the hurricanes come to visit. If no storms come I pump the gas into my truck and cars. Yes , I can move the drums myself. Keep a couple of used tires and you can drop the drums off your trailer onto them and then stand them up.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 7:34 pm to poochie
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Extra generator oil, oil filters, and air filters on hand.
This was the one thing I didn’t think of and it was very difficult to find oil need for my generator because everyone else was buying it too.
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