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Dune - first full review I’ve seen

Posted on 9/12/21 at 11:10 am
Posted by dcw7g
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 9/12/21 at 11:10 am
NY Magazine: Dune Doesn’t Care If You Like It


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The most daring aspect of Dune is not that it only tells half a narrative, or that it opts to immerse its audience in its richly rendered universe, assuming they can keep up without guide ropes. It’s carried pretty far on the strength of spectacle alone, with its spaceships hanging impossibly still in the air, its thrumming Hans Zimmer score, and its pallid antagonist, Baron Vladimir Harkonnen (Stellan Skarsgård channeling Marlon Brando’s Colonel Kurtz), floating around on anti-gravity boosters like a menacing balloon. No, the most daring aspect of Dune is how much unease it creates around the idea of a chosen one, from the Leni Riefenstahl-inspired military ceremony in which Leto and Paul receive their commission to take care of Arrakis to the fact that Paul is the product of eugenics. It begins with Chani talking in voiceover about the colonization of the Fremen’s land and the oppression they’ve experienced at the hands of rapacious outsiders, and then turns to a white savior whose greatness is entirely synthetic, engineered via planted prophecies and genetic manipulation. Paul’s reluctance to fall into the role created for him isn’t the usual self-doubt, but the dread of someone who begins to believe he’s meant to initiate a holy war. Being the hero of the story has never looked so poisoned, and that alone is thrilling enough to hope Villeneuve gets to make part two of this impressively batshit venture.
This post was edited on 9/12/21 at 1:17 pm
Posted by BearCrocs
Member since Aug 2013
6467 posts
Posted on 9/12/21 at 12:01 pm to
So is it good?
Posted by dcw7g
Member since Dec 2003
1973 posts
Posted on 9/12/21 at 1:16 pm to
Unclear. I think he liked it?
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 9/12/21 at 1:19 pm to
Not reading that bullshite. I'll watch it on my own and come to a conclusion. frick these critics who get an ahead of time view on things.

If they had to write shite in real time with a real audience, then everyone can see a little clearer if they're full of shite or not.
This post was edited on 9/12/21 at 1:22 pm
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 9/12/21 at 1:34 pm to
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the colonization of the Fremen’s land and the oppression they’ve experienced at the hands of rapacious outsiders, and then turns to a white savior whose greatness is entirely synthetic, engineered via planted prophecies and genetic manipulation.


Oh boy
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51490 posts
Posted on 9/12/21 at 7:18 pm to
You mean it followed the book? So sorry
Posted by GentlemanTiger
Shreveport
Member since Oct 2019
96 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 10:14 am to
It sounds like the movie has nailed the themes and ideas present in the novel. Anyone acting like this novel will be a "woke-fest" has clearly never read the book or series.

The entire series is a giant middle-finger to the white savior trope, which is funny because it was written before it was popular to do that.
Posted by McChowder
Hammond
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 9/13/21 at 1:55 pm to
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and then turns to a white savior whose greatness is entirely synthetic,

FFS, not this shite.
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
22792 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 3:37 pm to
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turns to a white savior whose greatness is entirely synthetic


You can tell this guy never read the books. To be fair, he's reviewing the movie - not the books - (and a movie that only covers 1/2 of the first book to boot) so I can see why, with his narrow worldview, he would think this is all about the white savior.

Muad'dib's greatness isn't "synthetic." He truly is the Kwisatz Haderach. He has a destiny to save humanity from itself, but he can't go through with it; its too horrible an existence for him. Instead, its up to his son, Leto II, to fulfill this destiny, which is handled in later books.
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
11877 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 12:23 pm to
I'll stick with my 1984 version.
Still a decent story, but without all the woke BS.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59132 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 3:10 pm to
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Chani talking in voiceover about the colonization of the Fremen’s land and the oppression they’ve experienced at the hands of rapacious outsiders, and then turns to a white savior


in case anyone was wondering if the reviewer at least wasn't woke
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