re: Max is not the problem people.

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he can't make progressions, holds the ball too long frequently, hangs the ball in the air too long, throws the ball into the dirt, occasionally flings the ball without looking

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Literally all of that could be fixed if his o.c. allowed him to establish a rhythm.

You guys forget that we came out and intentionally ran the ball until we had to throw in the first half and max still started 6/6.

The playcalling for this offense is the number one issue right now far and away, even more than the o line struggles. You can mask a bad o line with quick passing plays and whatnot, and you can set up the run with the pass. We just saw it two freakin years ago.

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if you're going to be honest about all of that, you should at least throw in Max's issues. he can't make progressions, holds the ball too long frequently, hangs the ball in the air too long, throws the ball into the dirt, occasionally flings the ball without looking

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Good points. I would also throw in deflections because of a long windup and telegraphed throws. Not good for a 6’6” guy to have so many balls deflected. He has happy feet due to the pressure (somewhat understandable) and can’t put enough on balls to get it to the receiver.

Boutte, Palmer, and Bech are your weapons on offense. That's 60% of what LSU needs with the skill positions w/ a QB with 4 starts. Max played fine last night. It could be better sure but no running game and mixing in a few key drops is why the results look like they do. Jenkins ain't it at WR. His drops in the first half killed momentum. If he catches the ball they score more and put the game away a lot quicker. The sacks last night were due to 3/5 starters being out on OL. LSU has to have a playmaker at RB. TDP isn't getting it done. Maybe Emory can come back and be the answer, if not maybe one of the freshman, but they're miles behind where they need to be at RB. I think the defense made strides last night but we'll find out more when they travel to MOO U. The offense I still think can improve to be a threat if Bech gets all the meaningful reps at TE, somebody else emerges as a sure handed WR outside of Palmer and Boutte, we find a RB, and the QB run is put into the offense to help out the o-line and RB's. I realize LSU doesn't have QB depth at the moment but the run game would greatly benefit if there was a threat of the QB pulling the ball and threatening the edge. Tell him to slide or run out of bounds but we need to see more of it.

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Max "dink and dunk" Johnson will not win us games because he provides no playmaker abilities.

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Did Florida and ole miss not happen last year?

The memory of some people on this board....

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Joe wasn’t winning a Heisman with this offense. Picture him without Chase, Jefferson, Moss and Clyde, Brady and Aranda.

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No shite. But Joe wouldn’t have QBd this team to a 4-8 record, which is where it appears we’re headed.

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Blaming this shitshow on Max is plain stupid.

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Blaming the whole shitshow on Max is plain stupid. Is anybody actually doing that, though? He just doesn’t possess the skill set to get this shitshow to win more games than it should. He has a very, very low,ceiling. Can win, but needs a lot of good things around him to do it. We don’t have those things.

I don't think too many people, if any, are saying that Johnson is THE problem. But he doesn't appear to be the answer, at least at this point, at THE most important position. We fully understand that no QB can fix all of the other issues with the team, but this happens to be a position where we have a possibility of improving with Nussmeier, and eventually Brennan when he comes back, whereas some people thought Max was the best QB on the roster coming into the season.

We'll see how Nussmeier does going forward, if they give him more opportunities, but he certainly had a better presence about him last night than what we've seen from Max these first two games. It just so happened that the receivers dropped even more passes for him.

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The playcalling for this offense is the number one issue right now far and away, even more than the o line struggles

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He is part of the problem. His accuracy has just been so-so. Not talking about complete misses, but the ones that are a little high or behind that are caught, but take away yards-after-catch opportunities.

That being said, it’s something he and the receivers can work on and improve. And the coaches need to pick up they tempo a bit; give the entire offense a chance to get into a rhythm.

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Max is not the problem people.

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This is not the question and it’s odd an way to frame it.

Is Nuss better/are we better with Nuss? That’s it.

“Not actively being a problem” is not a reason to do something