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re: Conversation with a liberal about ivermectin

Posted on 8/31/21 at 11:25 am to
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 8/31/21 at 11:25 am to
Still afraid to answer?
I understand I intimidate you, but go ahead, the board is curios as to why you won't answer such a simple question.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 8/31/21 at 11:26 am to
Don't answer him.

Ask him why he won't answer this simple question:

If someone's work depends on skewed or manipulated data, can the results be trusted?
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 8/31/21 at 11:29 am to
And you're an alter pretending to be a Doctor.
Posted by blackinthesaddle
Alabama
Member since Jan 2013
1732 posts
Posted on 8/31/21 at 11:33 am to
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I just read the study you posted the link to. There are a few things I see that are important to me as a clinician. #1 the number of people included in the study is pretty low. 72 of a potential 113 is not very many in the grand scheme. #2 They did not include people with serious health conditions, which is important as these are the people that are at most risk for serious illness #3 The primary outcome is viral clearance and remission of fever. To a clinician, we don’t care about either of these two. A primary endpoint of mortality needs to be the focus for hospitals and doctors to start recommending it. I’m as conservative as they come on this board but based on this study alone, I would not recommend ivermectin.


I'm not saying whether I would or not recommend it, it's up to the individual.

I will say that you're spot on with your criticism. The conclusion section of a good scientific paper will point out the weak points to their own methodology and make recommendations for changes that would help future studies. This one touched on the small sample size, but did not note in the conclusions the drop out rate and other things that are statistically significant.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
3733 posts
Posted on 8/31/21 at 11:50 am to
My question is - Ivermectin is safe,why not try it? If I was a Dr. I would rather my patient take a precise dose per prescription rather than try to dose themselves with horse paste preparation.As far as I know the only real contraindication is impaired liver function.
The way horse paste is formulated it would be very difficult to get a correct dose.
Myself,I have a bottle and if I get COVID and no Dr. will give me a script I will dose myself.


Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64592 posts
Posted on 8/31/21 at 3:18 pm to
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Why wouldn't I come back? That isn't me.


Did you get the email I sent to the contact me on your web page? If you did, you can disregard it. If you didn't, expect a cease and desist from the real Dr. Jay White. Being a former attorney, he doesn't frick around.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64592 posts
Posted on 8/31/21 at 3:20 pm to
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Doxing gone wrong? Yikes.


It's not doxing if a guy signs up to a website with his real name. Then proceeds to detail his career for two factor authentication. It's self-doxing.

Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
14930 posts
Posted on 8/31/21 at 4:03 pm to
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It's not doxing if a guy signs up to a website with his real name. Then proceeds to detail his career for two factor authentication. It's self-doxing.



Didn't he deny it? Seems like you reached. Maybe you should do the decent thing and pull the picture if you're not 100% certain.
Posted by JayWhite
Member since Nov 2020
1008 posts
Posted on 8/31/21 at 4:04 pm to
You really think there's only one Jay White in the world? Also, what makes you think Jay is even my legal name? If he's actually an attorney, he's going to ignore your crazy arse.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124653 posts
Posted on 8/31/21 at 4:04 pm to
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I don't really give a shite what you asked for.
Oh my
Translation: You were mistaken ... again.
No problem. Except it is getting to be a bit habitual in your short time here.
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You've been ducking for days, and today you decided to play stupid.
Sweetheart, I don't duck.
Would like me to send you a tube of Boudreaux's Butt Paste for your butthurt?

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Is Ivermectin off-label for COVID and are you a nurse?
Interesting. Why are you asking? You need off-label dosing recommendations as well? Anyway, it's is an odd question for someone claiming to be a "doctor" to ask of someone he imagines he is demeaning with the term "nurse". Is that the type information you find need to glean from nurses in your clinic as well?

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Tell you what though, perhaps since you claim to prefer offering human beings only water, rest and isolation early in the course of CV19 infection, the following will be helpful to you:

High concentrations of ivermectin have been shown to inhibit CV19 replication in vitro. Population data also indicate that country-wide mass use of prophylactic chemotherapy for parasitic infections, including the use of ivermectin, is associated with a lower incidence of CV19.

Clinical trials have evaluated the safety and efficacy of ivermectin for CV19. Although several studies have reported potentially promising results, the findings are limited by the design of the studies, their small sample sizes, and the lack of details regarding the safety and efficacy of ivermectin.

E.g.,
In an interventional study of 33 contacts of patients with laboratory-confirmed CV19, no cases of infection were identified within 21 days of initiating ivermectin for post-exposure prophylaxis.

An open-label randomized controlled trial investigated ivermectin prophylaxis in health care workers or in household contacts exposed to patients with laboratory-confirmed CV19. The incidence of infection was lower among the participants who received ivermectin than among control participants who used only personal
protective measures. However, the study provided no data on the characteristics of the study participants, types of exposures, or how endpoints were defined.

Finally, in a small case-control study in CV19 exposed health care workers, 186 participants who became infected were matched with 186 uninfected controls. Of those who received ivermectin after exposure to CV19, 38 were in the infected group and 77 were in the uninfected group, which led the investigators to conclude that ivermectin reduced the incidence of infection.

Several clinical trials evaluating use of ivermectin for CV19 (pre or post-exposure) are currently underway or in development.

If you have any other questions regarding off-label ivermectin, and if I have time, I'll try to help you out further.

Posted by JayWhite
Member since Nov 2020
1008 posts
Posted on 8/31/21 at 4:05 pm to
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It's not doxing if a guy signs up to a website with his real name. Then proceeds to detail his career for two factor authentication. It's self-doxing.



Dude, that isn't me and I never claimed it was.

You're a fricking lunatic, and you should seek help.
Posted by JayWhite
Member since Nov 2020
1008 posts
Posted on 8/31/21 at 4:14 pm to
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Oh my
Translation: You were mistaken ... again.


Well, that went right over your head, didn't it?

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Sweetheart, I don't duck.


Of course you do. You're a nurse, and you have yet to confirm that. We both know why. You're the type of nurse who knows more than her doctor and spends more time gossiping about that than doing your job or improving yourself. It's easier for you to run your mouth to people who don't care.

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Interesting. Why are you asking?


What do we mean when we say a drug is off-label?

The rest is really a lot of useless noise when you could've just said "yes, I'm a nurse."
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124653 posts
Posted on 8/31/21 at 4:31 pm to
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Sweetheart, I don't duck.


Of course you do.
Yet here we are.

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You're the type of nurse who knows more than her doctor
Well if I were a nurse, the latter would be true in this case.

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What do we mean when we say a drug is off-label?
You have a serious pronoun problem in that question. If you need medical advice, ask properly. It simply isn't evident WTF you would mean.

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more time gossiping about that than doing your job or improving yourself.
I'm fairly well improved at this end, "doctor"
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 8/31/21 at 8:44 pm to
STFU!
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Communist USA
Member since Nov 2007
12225 posts
Posted on 8/31/21 at 9:33 pm to
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tested positive today and doctor prescribed it without asking or making a big deal.


Problem is where did you find it to get filed? The pharmacists are bigger jerks about it than the docs!
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
14930 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 4:18 am to
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STFU!


No. Maybe you can start a melt thread crying to the moderators about it, though.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 6:26 am to
Still waiting on you to prove to everyone you aren't a troll and answer that simple question......
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124653 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 7:19 am to
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Still waiting on you to prove to everyone you aren't a troll and answer that simple question......



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