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The mistake was: We simply trusted them

Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:27 am
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:27 am
We trained them, we gave them our weaponry, and we thought that after a generation, we could (and should) leave, and they would at least be able to hold the line for a few months.

Enough time to get out everyone who wanted / needed to get out.

In the back of minds, maybe we thought eventually the Taliban would win out... but the Afghan military / government would at least put up a fight.

I don't think our political/leaders had any concept that the Afghan military and politicians, including their damn president, would just immediately say "here you go!" and run from the Taliban.

There was a plan. The plan depended on the Afghans doing... something. Anything. They did nothing, and we were caught unprepared for that.

And here we are.
Posted by DhanTigers212
Member since Dec 2014
10392 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:28 am to
The mistake was: allowing these frickers to get away with a stolen election
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:29 am to
They trusted us and we (Biden) abandoned them.

May 1st date was not executed. Biden removed special forces backing.

From May 1st to now the Afghan forces collapsed.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
85886 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:29 am to
Contingency plans are hard!
Posted by Kattail
Member since Aug 2020
4145 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:30 am to
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They did nothing, and we were caught unprepared for that.



Biden was warned, but the arrogant, hard headed old man knew better.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40291 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 10:01 am to
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The mistake was: allowing these frickers to get away with a stolen election


Trump wanted to withdraw as well...
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40291 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 10:02 am to
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Contingency plans are hard!


You can't plan for every contingency.

Perhaps we were overconfident.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
85886 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 10:03 am to
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You can't plan for every contingency.
Who claimed that?

quote:

Perhaps we were overconfident.
Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
9393 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 10:03 am to
WhataboutTrump!!!!! Whaaaaaaaa!!
Posted by Whichwayisup
Member since Jun 2021
454 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 10:04 am to
quote:


Biden was warned, but the arrogant, hard headed old man knew better.


He didn't make this call, he's a senile old man
Posted by AURaptor
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Member since Aug 2018
11958 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 10:08 am to
The elephant in the room nobody’s talking about is that apparently Afghanistan has a wealth of untapped mineral resources. That is the real reason why we stuck around for so long. It wasn’t to spread democracy and send little girls to school so they can grow up to be CEOs. It was for the mining rights to what could potentially lie underneath the ground. Make no mistake, China is going to move in & own that area.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
9067 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 10:09 am to
The Biden Presidency ended this weekend.

The joke on everyone is the loon directly behind him and bigger loon behind her ...
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40291 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 10:22 am to
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That is the real reason why we stuck around for so long.


Did we get any access / benefit from those resources over the last 20 years?
Posted by Hayekian serf
GA
Member since Dec 2020
4056 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 10:23 am to
You think that’s the mistake?

You need to go back to the 1950s to truly understand how horrible American foreign policy has been.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40291 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 10:26 am to
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You think that’s the mistake?



In the current moment, yes...
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 10:27 am to
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I don't think our political/leaders had any concept that the Afghan military and politicians, including their damn president, would just immediately say "here you go!" and run from the Taliban.


Yes they did.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26954 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 10:28 am to
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I don't think our political/leaders had any concept that the Afghan military and politicians, including their damn president, would just immediately say "here you go!" and run from the Taliban.



Then they're freaking idiots who shouldn't be in charge of a lemonade stand.

Congrats on your vote.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94854 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 10:31 am to
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And here we are.


When China takes over, there will not be the kid gloves treatment they got from the USSR or the USA.

China knows how to do this sort of thing properly.
Posted by Big Jim Slade
Member since Oct 2016
6266 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 10:31 am to
Posted by CrimsonClover
Member since Oct 2020
1063 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 10:33 am to
Duh. Why would we go into Afghanistan, blow their fricking country up, and then think that the remaining people would take orders from White Americans?

How incredibly fricking ignorant and stupid.
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