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re: Iceland & Israel are two of the most vaxx'ed countries in the world
Posted on 8/13/21 at 12:14 pm to The Boat
Posted on 8/13/21 at 12:14 pm to The Boat
a far effective measure would be to encourage resistance training. light cardio. adequate sleep
no money in that tho. so it's booster shots forever bro
no money in that tho. so it's booster shots forever bro
Posted on 8/13/21 at 12:19 pm to MikeBRLA
No, I'm asking you to prove that a large majority of them are dead.
I'm suggesting that there are far more than the 15,000 elderly that Cuomo killed still alive and vulnerable.
Please provide a study or paper that supports your claim that all or most vulnerable people are dead. I'd like it if you can tell me what percentage of the vulnerable people are dead already?
I'm suggesting that there are far more than the 15,000 elderly that Cuomo killed still alive and vulnerable.
Please provide a study or paper that supports your claim that all or most vulnerable people are dead. I'd like it if you can tell me what percentage of the vulnerable people are dead already?
Posted on 8/13/21 at 12:59 pm to DangerousWafer
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The UK had 94 deaths today and total new cases today (7 day average) is around 28,132. Last time, total new cases were around 28,132 in the UK was on the 24th January 2021. Deaths were around 1240 on that day.
This was before everyone had been vaccinated. This suggests that vaccination has reduced the number of deaths.
What part of more transmittable less lethal gives you trouble? It's something viruses have been mutating to for millions of years.
Is the vaccine really doing anything?
Posted on 8/13/21 at 2:02 pm to DangerousWafer
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The vaccine was only fully developed and tested by the end of 2020 so you can't really expect everyone to have known
This right here is the sticking point for myself and many others. You don't have to be a flaming conspiracy theorist anti-vaxxer to say "You know, this vaccine/medication is less than a year old and even though I trust doctors and science, I think I'd prefer to wait a bit longer to see what else may come from this that 'you can't really expect everyone to have known.'"
Prior to this "warp speed" vaccine, the fastest approval process was the mumps vaccine, which took 4 years.
This CNN article from September 2020 lays out the concerns about a rushed vaccine. In case people don't want to give CNN clicks, the title of the article is "Past vaccine disasters show why rushing a coronavirus vaccine now would be "colossally stupid'" and this excerpt aligns with this thread:
"One, the vaccine may not be safe. Two, if it is not safe, people will lose faith in vaccines. Three, if a vaccine doesn't offer complete protection, people will have a false sense of security and increase their risk. Four, if a substandard vaccine gets an EUA, a better vaccine may never get approval, because people would be reluctant to enroll in trials and risk getting a placebo instead of a vaccine."
That was CNN less than a year ago, now there are vaccine mandates and you hate science and your fellow Americans if you have questions?
This post was edited on 8/13/21 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 8/13/21 at 2:04 pm to concrete_tiger
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got the measles vax to avoid getting measles... not to get it but not as bad...
You dont get measles because damn near everybody is vaxxd so its effectively eradicated
If it was as prevalent as covid there would be breakthrough measles infections
Posted on 8/13/21 at 2:05 pm to Lightning
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That was CNN less than a year ago
And this board shite all over that story at the time saying CNN was just OMB rushed vaccine bad
Posted on 8/13/21 at 2:09 pm to DangerousWafer
Stop believing their lies.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 2:24 pm to Cosmo
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And this board shite all over that story at the time saying CNN was just OMB rushed vaccine bad
That’s part of my point - CNN was publishing articles about a risky rushed vax less than a year ago. Are they going to go interview those same doctors and get their thoughts now? That seems like objective journalism.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 2:52 pm to DangerousWafer
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Isn't that what vaccination is about? Reducing the number of deaths.
How do people not understand a vaccine. A vax is supposed to prevent a person from getting the illness.
How many people get the polio vax and get polio?
Posted on 8/13/21 at 6:36 pm to obdobd918
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How do people not understand a vaccine. A vax is supposed to prevent a person from getting the illness.
How many people get the polio vax and get polio?
Many vaccines reduce symptoms, not prevent them from getting an illness.
Take the vaccine for rotavirus for example that's been available since 2006. It reduces the symptoms of rotavirus, it doesn't prevent the virus from infecting patients.
Immunity to severe disease is the first stage of immunity. It's exactly a type of immunity that's common in many vaccines. Why don't people understand that?
Immunity to severe versions of the disease -> Immunity to any disease -> Sterilizing immunity.
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How many people get the polio vax and get polio?
That's an example of a sterilizing vaccine i.e. reduces infections and symptoms. Most vaccines are not sterilizing vaccines.
Another example of a non-sterilizing vaccine: vaccines against Bordetella pertussis, the primary bacterium that causes whooping cough, or pertussis. The vaccine reduces symptoms of whooping cough, not reducing transmission.
How do people not understand this? Immunity against severe versions of a disease is a type of immunity.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 7:15 pm to DangerousWafer
Or maybe the Delta variant is more virulent and less deadly as people predicted from the beginning would happen. Natural progression of a virus. The virus that kills its host will eventually die out.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 7:23 pm to stout
It is absolutely amazing how easily China brought the world to its knees with this virus.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 7:37 pm to Tiguar
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Tiguar -- MDs and other medical terminal degrees have far more experience interpreting data (allegedly) than your average travel ball plant worker baw.
I doubt you have a clue about what most board operators know of statistical analysis or analytical reasoning skills.
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