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re: What about everyone whos has had COVID and never got sick. Why do they need the jab?

Posted on 8/12/21 at 5:44 pm to
Posted by sawtooth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 5:44 pm to
It only counts if you pay for your immunity.
Posted by Ry_garou
Lafayette
Member since Mar 2014
582 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 5:44 pm to
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Why didn’t you trust your natural immunity for all the other vaccines you’ve gotten in your life?


I have for influenza, no vaccine with 100% success of no infection.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
33696 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 5:48 pm to
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Not the same question. The virus attacks at a cellular level. Something determines whether it affects a person or not - certainly could be biological/genetic. We will never know because people don't study things that are relevant. There probably are some people who this thing would never impact.




Your getting downvoted because people don't want to hear the truth.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
84517 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 5:49 pm to
Well the OP got it wrong in that if you were asymptotic with COVID, you probably don’t have useful antibodies, which accounts for a lot of reinfections.

This could be solved with a simple antibody test, which to me, seems like something more effective than a 3 day old negative test.

But I’m a moron, so
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
93559 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 5:50 pm to
They should at least let antibody tests count as being vaccinated when they require proof of vaccination
Posted by Jack Daniel
Gold member
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 5:50 pm to
Published by who?
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
33696 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 5:51 pm to
Antibodies don't last though. What about the memory T-cells?
Posted by kjp811
Denver, CO
Member since Apr 2017
888 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 6:00 pm to
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Antibodies don't last though. What about the memory T-cells?


Memory B cells as well. So your T-cell do two things, they help the Memory B-Cell make the antibodies. Then of the other side, some T-Cells will directly attack the and kill the virus. It's these T-Cells that go nut in Cytokine Storms
Posted by OvertheDwayneBowe
Member since Sep 2016
3112 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 6:24 pm to
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Did you even read the article. It literally full of conjecture and very little actual substance. The study linked says symptomatic Covid infection did show substantial ability to resist further infection.



The study/report literally never references symptoms once.

LINK

Immunity to reinfection is believed to last about 90 days.

LINK


Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
33696 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 6:25 pm to
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Then of the other side, some T-Cells will directly attack the and kill the virus. It's these T-Cells that go nut in Cytokine Storms


Could there be a feasible test to test for this?
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6641 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 6:38 pm to
Hot off the press:

Durability of SARS-CoV-2-specific T cell responses at 12-months post-infection

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Results. SARS-CoV-2-specific antibodies and T cells were detected at 12-months post-infection. Severity of acute illness was associated with higher frequencies of SARS-CoV-2-specific CD4 T cells and antibodies at 12-months
Posted by beerandt
Member since Jan 2020
309 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 7:05 pm to
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In fact, a study published by the CDC on August 6 compared reinfection rates of people who had previously had COVID-19 and found that unvaccinated individuals were more than twice as likely to be reinfected than fully vaccinated individuals.


That study literally used an antigen test as proof of "reinfection." Without any consideration for symptoms.

If the result were reversed, they'd be praising twice the immunity, as proved by twice as many people with long term presence of antibodies.


quote:

Case-patients were eligible for inclusion if initial infection occurred during
March–December 2020, and a subsequent positive nucleic acid amplification
or antigen test result was received during May–June 2021


Actual CDC Study
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22579 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 7:06 pm to
Did you read it? It pointed you to another study and that was contained with in
This post was edited on 8/12/21 at 7:08 pm
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
33696 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 7:18 pm to
quote:

Hot off the press:

Durability of SARS-CoV-2-specific T cell responses at 12-months post-infection

quote:
Results. SARS-CoV-2-specific antibodies and T cells were detected at 12-months post-infection. Severity of acute illness was associated with higher frequencies of SARS-CoV-2-specific CD4 T cells and antibodies at 12-months



That should be proof of natural immunity...in a sane world.

Another telling thing is how they want unvaccinated donors for the monoclonal antibody treatment.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
78537 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 10:15 pm to
Having one strand of covid doesnt give you immunity to other strands.
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