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Dominion lawsuits against Powell, Lindell and Rudy move ahead---this should be interesting

Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:00 pm
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:00 pm
So the defense lawyers for Trump's people---Powell, Lindell and Rudy---were saying their speech was political speech and was not subject to civil action. Basically they are saying it didn't matter if they were lying or not about Dominion.

That's a heck of a deal.

Instead of saying they can back up all the crap they said they have elected to say it doesn't matter if it is lies.

The Trump appointed judge called BS on that argument and allowed the lawsuits to go forward.

It's Politico but the quotes are the quotes

quote:

The three defendants’ arguments found little resonance with Nichols, a Trump appointee who seemed disdainful of their conduct and of suggestions that their statements were within the bounds of freewheeling political debate.

“As an initial matter, there is no blanket immunity for statements that are ‘political’ in nature,” Nichols wrote in his 44-page opinion. “It is true that courts recognize the value in some level of ‘imaginative expression’ or ‘rhetorical hyperbole’ in our public debate. … But it is simply not the law that provably false statements cannot be actionable if made in the context of an election.”

Nichols said many of the statements cited in the suit qualified as comments that could be seen as making factual claims capable of being proved true or false.

“The question, then, is whether a reasonable juror could conclude that Powell’s statements expressed or implied a verifiably false fact about Dominion,” the judge wrote. “This is not a close call.”

The judge noted that Powell repeatedly said the founder of Dominion claimed he could change vast numbers of votes at his whim.

“These statements are either true or not; either Powell has a video depicting the founder of Dominion saying he can ‘change a million votes,’ or she does not,” Nichols said.


This is a part of the lawsuits that those watching the pillow guy now should pay attention to:

quote:

However, the judge said the company had viable claims that Powell, Lindell and Lindell’s company, My Pillow, sought to profit financially by spreading false and inaccurate information.
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All those crazy fund raising gimmicks they had about "send money to help us audit the elections" do look like scams now.

It will be interesting to see how these lawsuits are handled. I suspect Dominion is not interested in a settlement--they are going to want to get in front of a jury and make the three defendants put up or shut up under oath.
Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:02 pm to
Did Dominion seek to profit off of helping to steal elections?
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:02 pm to
I B Chinatool branching out!
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
5582 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:03 pm to
You're truly a genius if the "Dominion" hill is one you've chosen to die on. This criminal organization has told the States that they are not allowed to see the servers of the elections bc of "IP". All of you Democrats who can't see the forest through the trees will learn the hard way when you are not the team "They" pick. Then you'll cry but it will be too late and we will all be fighting to learn mandarin.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:04 pm to
Discovery should be fun IBChinaman
Posted by LSUvet72
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:05 pm to
Pretty sure the longer the suit goes on it will be proved that the election was the biggest RICO fraud ever perpetuated in America.

Be careful what you ask for cause you may get dealt shite you can't handle with a shovel and a wheelbarrow.

Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
12200 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:07 pm to
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All of you Democrats who can't see the forest through the trees will learn the hard way when you are not the team "They" pick.


They were all complaining about dominion voting machines for years leading up to the 2020 elections. Democrats were giving speeches in the capitol warning of voter fraud using the likes of dominion machines. In 2019 they were sounding the alarms during the democrat primaries.

Now they defend Dominion, because they used these machines to help steal the 2020 presidential election

These people are dishonest, lying sociopaths.

This post was edited on 8/12/21 at 12:08 pm
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:07 pm to
May have. You can sue them and find out.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
106813 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:07 pm to
Why did your Chinese friends release a biological weapon upon the world?
Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
12200 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:09 pm to
quote:

May have. You can sue them and find out.


Depends on the judge. We shouldn’t have to sue to get that information
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
26871 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:09 pm to
Considering what we've seen on the national stage (Hillary walking for her email servers, Biden's dealings with Ukraine and Hunter's laptop, RussiaGate, etc.) this really doesn't say much.

Our entire system is corrupt.
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
19040 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:10 pm to
If Powell and company was just making shite up, I hope they get prison time and bankrupted.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:12 pm to
quote:

Pretty sure the longer the suit goes on it will be proved that the election was the biggest RICO fraud ever perpetuated in America.



Well why didn't the defense use that????

Are you not the least bit concerned that the center of the defense was until this ruling "it doesn't matter what we said---it was political speech and that is protected."

If I was a big Trump supporter and emotionally invested in this I would be damn mad that these assholes were out there lying and embarrassing Trump.
This post was edited on 8/12/21 at 12:36 pm
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
83277 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:13 pm to
Muh standing!
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:14 pm to
exactly

She and the other defendants may well have taken advantage of the emotions of the Trumpkins.
Posted by LSUvet72
Member since Sep 2013
13103 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:15 pm to
Does La. still have a contract with Dominium Voting Systems with La. old voting machines?

If so La. needs to jettison said contract and adopt Texas's voting system and whatever software company is running it.

After attending the Cyber Symposium in S.D. for last to days Dominium is coming under heavy accusations of conspiracy with CCP to changing votes in 2020 Election.
Posted by Johnpettigrew
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2017
1744 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:15 pm to
Going to get downvoted, but nothing they said has been proven as of yet. They have cost Dominion billions of dollars so the defendants have an issue. The only good that will come out of this is as country we are now aware that our elections are run by a Canadian company with software no one is allow to inspect. We need blockchain, open source technology implemented before 2024.
Posted by dukkbill
Member since Aug 2012
1011 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:20 pm to
I think Powell's lawyers were even arguing that the speech as "hyperbolic" and "heat of the moment" and thus protected. Nichols even goes on to say:

quote:

As a preliminary matter, a reasonable juror could conclude that the existence of a vast international conspiracy that
is ignored by the government but proven by a spreadsheet on an internet blog is so inherently improbable that only a reckless man would believe it
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

only a reckless man would believe it


Lots of them on the PT. Came from the Q thread I suspect.

Posted by Gifman
Member since Jan 2021
16996 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:24 pm to
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IB Freeman


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